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  • Female privilege, or just an opportunity to gossip?

    There was an interesting incident at the bar I work at the other night, wanted to share and get your opinions on it.

    It was late, and the patrons at the bar were quite lubricated by this time, when the bartender came into the kitchen and told us "there's a chick out there whose spitting on the bar"
    To be clear, she wasn't saying there was a woman spitting on the bar until being asked to leave, nor was she saying that a woman had spat on the bar; but that there is a woman currently in the process of repeatedly spitting on the bar.
    As soon as the bartender was out of earshot, I commented to the dishwasher that if it had been a male, he'd have been kicked out already.
    And that's a bit of an understatement... if it had been a guy, he likely would have been picked up and carried out to the street by other male patrons, who would quite likely get in a few punches along the way.

    About five minutes later, the bartender returned with all three of the waitresses who proceeded to talk about this woman, calling her a looser, a bitch, a drunken slut etc.
    All the while, this woman was still sitting at the bar, continuing her intolerable behavior.

    It occurred to me that this was not so much an example of female privilege (sorry, I mean benevolent sexism:dodgy, but the girls where actually enjoying the opportunity to talk trash about another female. Why cut it short, when it is so satisfying too cut up another woman.

    I guess you might argue there was a sense of privilege involved in that this woman assumed she could get away with it, but drunk is drunk, a drunken male could easily do the same thing.

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    RE: Female privilege, or just an opportunity to gossip?

    I would imagine that situations with unruly females can be very uncomfortable and often no one knows what to do. Bouncers in bars are normally male, and they don't want to appear to be a bully or risk some drunken girl claiming that they were manhandled (or worse) so they will let situations with females go a lot further before anything is done. some of them love to tune up smaller males though.
    There can also be a lot of drama in bars, and often the girls who choose to work in bars love the drama, so this kind of thing is right up their alley.
    “No one is free who has not obtained the empire of himself. No man is free who cannot command himself.”
    ― Pythagoras

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      RE: Female privilege, or just an opportunity to gossip?

      Originally posted by malcolm
      I would imagine that situations with unruly females can be very uncomfortable and often no one knows what to do. Bouncers in bars are normally male, and they don't want to appear to be a bully or risk some drunken girl claiming that they were manhandled (or worse) so they will let situations with females go a lot further before anything is done. some of them love to tune up smaller males though.
      There can also be a lot of drama in bars, and often the girls who choose to work in bars love the drama, so this kind of thing is right up their alley.
      we would only go to bars that had female bouncers when i was younger because of how bad some women would get abusing my friends and i if we didnt buy them a drink or some other perceived slight.
      The only thing that resembles "The Patriarchy" these days is Feminism itself.

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        RE: Female privilege, or just an opportunity to gossip?

        Originally posted by malcolm
        I would imagine that situations with unruly females can be very uncomfortable and often no one knows what to do. Bouncers in bars are normally male, and they don't want to appear to be a bully or risk some drunken girl claiming that they were manhandled (or worse) so they will let situations with females go a lot further before anything is done. some of them love to tune up smaller males though.
        There can also be a lot of drama in bars, and often the girls who choose to work in bars love the drama, so this kind of thing is right up their alley.
        I bounced at a nightclub when I was in college. When a woman got drunk, or out of control it was the house rules that the bouncer and cooler escorted her out quickly. The usual white knights would protest and sometimes even interfere, but the rule was if you interfered with someone being ejected because of being drunk or bad behavior, all bets were off and that guy or guys were tossed as well.
        De oppresso liber

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        • #5
          RE: Female privilege, or just an opportunity to gossip?

          I would say that it is a case of both: privilege on the patron's part and a gossip opportunity on the employees part. It is part of that multi layer society of ours. In one layer most people, especially women go on and on about the whole idea of innocent female victims at the hands of the evil males while simultaneously acknowledging that women are not that innocent.
          In the movie, The Great Race (1965), the Great Leslie says to a feminist, "You're not talking about equal rights. You are talking about some convenient, feminist utopia that has all of the advantages and none of the responsibilities!"

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            RE: Female privilege, or just an opportunity to gossip?

            Originally posted by TPH
            Originally posted by malcolm
            I would imagine that situations with unruly females can be very uncomfortable and often no one knows what to do. Bouncers in bars are normally male, and they don't want to appear to be a bully or risk some drunken girl claiming that they were manhandled (or worse) so they will let situations with females go a lot further before anything is done. some of them love to tune up smaller males though.
            There can also be a lot of drama in bars, and often the girls who choose to work in bars love the drama, so this kind of thing is right up their alley.
            I bounced at a nightclub when I was in college. When a woman got drunk, or out of control it was the house rules that the bouncer and cooler escorted her out quickly. The usual white knights would protest and sometimes even interfere, but the rule was if you interfered with someone being ejected because of being drunk or bad behavior, all bets were off and that guy or guys were tossed as well.
            I like that policy.
            Ratslicer

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            • #7
              RE: Female privilege, or just an opportunity to gossip?

              As for the idea of women getting away with something that a man could not as an example of female privilege, I am reminded of a story from a friend of mine when he was a taxi driver. He said that he had two young women in his taxi who refused to pay and refused to exit the taxi. He got into an argument with them but realized that mere speech would be insufficient because the women were just asshats. He ended up calling dispatch to report the situation and got out of the taxi. In short time, other taxi drivers arrived on the scene and they joked and talked about the situation. Eventually, hours later, the police showed up and the two women agreed to leave. I don't know if the taxi fare was paid or not. But, my friend said that if these were two males, the situation would not have gotten very far as it would have been settled with fisticuffs.

              Yup, "I am a woman and I have free reign to do what I want because you can't lay a finger on me." In a society in which women are considered to be helpless victims of an all powerful oppressive male regime.
              In the movie, The Great Race (1965), the Great Leslie says to a feminist, "You're not talking about equal rights. You are talking about some convenient, feminist utopia that has all of the advantages and none of the responsibilities!"

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