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  • #16
    RE: Reproductive choice for men summarized

    Originally posted by Sir
    The most significant effect of any "male pill" will not be a reduction in females getting pregnant, it will be an increase in the number of men wondering HOW "their" women managed to get pregnant..
    Oh jesus. Cheating whores.
    Build a man a fire, and he\'ll be warm for the rest of the night.
    Set a man on fire, and he\'ll be warm for the rest of his life.


    :dodgy: AWALT; Omnes feminae malos exempla sunt.

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    • #17
      RE: Reproductive choice for men summarized

      The way is see it, in terms of equal rights for men, there is only one solution. As long as abortion is legal, men shouldn't have to pay child support. If a woman can so easily avoid responsibility, why shouldn't a man?

      The real brain teaser is, if this law were passed and put into effect today, and you couldn't repeal it without making abortion illegal, how long before both were made illegal? All the baby-making machines living on the dole and other men's hard earned money would shit themselves.

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      • #18
        RE: Reproductive choice for men summarized

        The best form of contraception is not an aspirin held between her knees, but semen deposited anywhere except the vagina

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        • #19
          RE: Reproductive choice for men summarized

          "Dad, why is it 'Fatherland', but 'mother-tongue' ?" ... "Son, because Men build civilisation. Women talk."
          Feminism is just another Apartheid: legally-sanctioned discrimination.

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          • #20
            RE: Reproductive choice for men summarized

            One solution for a MGTOW, being financially solvent due to not having a wallet-bleeding bitch to look after, with his spare income he could hire a surrogate mother to be artificially inseminated with his sperm ... she would legally sign a contract with guarantees his custody of the child, he gets the genetic offspring he wanted and she gets her bundle of cash which appeals to her hypergamic tendencies.

            The more MGTOWS with money refusing to marry there are, then the more talentless wombs there will be walking about with no spare cash doled out to them by the men. Surrogate motherhood will be a more and more alluring concept to the women who decide to gestate our progeny.
            *Nothing is as important as the importance of nothing*

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            • #21
              RE: Reproductive choice for men summarized

              Given that women can rape and then collect child support from their victims even saying "no" is not sufficient.

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              • #22
                RE: Reproductive choice for men summarized

                I think it's dangerous to say that the male pill is THE answer to men's reproductive rights. It's a huge step forward because it gives men the ability to protect themselves better than the condom (I was looking into the efficacy of different BC methods and the only thing less effective than the male condom with typical use was the female condom -- it's only 85% effective, as in 85% of couples who use that as their main contraceptive method have a pregnancy not that 85% of all sexual encounters with condoms as contraceptive result in failure), however, it's still hugely important that men be given a legal way to relinquish financial responsibility towards children of unexpected pregnancies.

                Birth control pills for women are not 100% effective (although nearly so -- 99 to 99.9% or something like that) and I imagine male birth control pills would have a similar rate of efficacy. You wouldn't want the fact that you had access to male birth control that failed make you responsible if you fall into that 1%.

                As for the legal out for men, I don't think it needs to be a matter of filling out paperwork for men that says they do not wish to father, although that might be necessary. I think the burden of proof that the man involved had an intent to father should fall onto the mother when she goes to seek child support. She could provide one of two sets of proof, for example. Either signed adoption papers or a combination of a positive paternity test and some other evidence, such as a notarized signature on the birth certificate or evidence of prolonged cohabitation with the mother and the child after the child's birth. I try to think of every legal loophole or situation, but really, you could never have a perfect system. However, I think this system would be fairly easily implemented.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ubermensch View Post
                  The answer, as usual, is prostitution.
                  You think a prostitute can't get pregnant? And that is just one problem with prostitution. Then you have men who end up getting addicted to it. Not the way to go.

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