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    Well... after feminism have basically give up on millennials and call us now a wasted generation, they decided to focus their efforts in the next generation... and to their surprise that generation is buying in even less than millennials...

    But not faint... there is a perfect explanation for this... there is nothing wrong with feminism... there is a problem with everybody else...

    http://mashable.com/2017/10/07/teenage-boys-feminism/

    Identifying as a feminist is, for many of us, synonymous with believing in gender equality. But, for teenage boys in the UK, it's not quite so straightforward.
    So refreshing that they did not start up with a rant about Donald Trump... just for that, I am just gong to celebrate.

    British teenage boys don't want to refer to themselves as feminists, even though they believe in gender equality. Their reasons for distancing themselves from the word are far-reaching and complex.
    No complex at all... the reason is simple.. feminism is not about equality.... but yeah... now it is coming a long and convoluted explanation of what is wrong with those boys...

    Recent research by the National Citizen Service (NCS) found only 11 percent of teen boys call themselves feminists, despite the fact that 88 percent of them believe in gender equality.
    Why the government is even wasting money and time asking this stupid questions to the kids???

    Per the research, over a quarter of teen boys don't believe in feminism, and almost a third think the term "feminism" is no longer relevant. While some feel the term is outdated, there also seems to be a lack of understanding of what it really means to be a feminist. One in ten teenage boys say they don't know what the word "feminist" means, and 16 percent believe it means favouring the rights of women over those of men.
    Sounds like they actually have a very accurate idea of what feminism is...

    Mashable interviewed teenage boys to find out what the word "feminism" means to them. 14-year-old Jacob believes in gender equality, but he refuses to call himself a feminist. "I feel like the radical feminists affiliated with feminism put me off calling myself one," he says. Jacob knows that a feminist is someone who believes in equal rights for all genders, but says that "there are a lot of different kinds of feminists"
    Jacob knows that we are all equals... but there is some people that is more equal than others... LOL

    16-year-old Max says his friends see feminism as "a group of middle-aged women who whinge about insignificant discrepancies between men and women." But, he doesn't share their views. "Being part of an ethnic minority has taught me that we all have a moral obligation to strive for equality in all aspects of life whether it affects us directly or not," he says.
    Hard to argue with Max point... for instance in US the new campaign feminism is promoting is to no longer use the word "hurricane" but "himacane"... I am serious here, I am not making this stuff up... feminism is demanding that we do this change of language, because... "equality"...

    Jamie, 14, doesn't call himself a feminist because he believes women have already achieved equality. While Jamie's positive-thinking about the state of women's rights is admirable. The gender pay gap in the UK currently stands at 18.1 percent, so equality has sadly not quite arrived just yet.
    Well... I am sure Jamie can say a thing or 2 about how much of a lie the pay gap is...

    Interestingly, Jamie is of the opinion that "some feminists demand more rights than men." And, just like Max, Jamie's friends do not describe themselves as feminists.
    Well... but they do demand more rights... LOL.

    For Rafe, 14, things are not quite so straightforward. "I don’t really think of myself as a feminist even though I passively support the cause," he says. "To me, a feminist is someone who is actively part of the cause." In his mind, a feminist is "someone who actively takes part in the women's rights community." That said, he is a staunch advocate of equality.
    In other words, Rafe knows he have not part of the "movement" because he have a penis, so he will never be welcome...

    "I believe that men, women and non-binary people should have equal rights and respect," he says. Rafe thinks that people doing "equal work" should be paid the same. But he doesn't think it should be enforced by law "because the quality of work is sometimes a subjective thing."
    And for that he means Objective... as you can actually measure production... but such measurements are offensive... why do we compare who produce more? we are all a team, and we all should earn the same... enforced by law... of course... I wonder what Rafe can object to such system?

    16-year-old Jack says he's "never thought about" whether or not he identifies as a feminist "'cos whatever you label yourself it doesn't affect your opinion." But, despite not wishing to "label" himself, Jack does believe in gender equality and he understands the meaning of the word "feminism."
    Then again... I kind of like the nice and gentle way this kids just put down feminism... they don't want to hurt feelings, but still they are not going to agree with all the nonsense...

    The good news is that, for the most part, teenage boys care about gender equality. The problem appears to lie in the terminology. For some, the word "feminist" is loaded with connotations of radicalism.
    Blame that on the patriarchy...

    And, the good news is, that not all teen boys have an issue with the word. 15-year-old Krishan identifies as a feminist because he states "there is still gender inequality which needs to be addressed."
    OK... Where? in Pakistan?

    For 19-year-old Aaron, identifying as a feminist is something he feels everyone should strive for. "Being a feminist in my opinion just states that you want a more balanced society as opposed to the negative connotations that the word 'feminist' sometimes has," says Aaron.
    And that is a millennial talking... for what he says there.. looks like he is just about to go MGTOW.

    While it's great that so many young men are passionate about equality, it's clear that there's a reluctance to use the word "feminist". So, should we be working harder to address the misconceptions about this word? Or, should we just forget about labels, and focus on achieving actual equality?
    What misconceptions???

  • #2
    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    Well... after feminism have basically give up on millennials and call us now a wasted generation, they decided to focus their efforts in the next generation... and to their surprise that generation is buying in even less than millennials...
    Entertaining
    But why do you go on hurting yourself by wading through all this muck.
    I clicked the "gender" topic link, and oh my .... what kind of thing is "Mashable" anyway?

    How OKCupid helps you select only submissive manginas:
    http://mashable.com/2017/09/13/okcup.../#EVv8omSaLPql

    One woman hands out notes about "Boy Poison" because she wants women to
    " .... embrace all forms of your femininity and dominance at the same time" ...
    http://mashable.com/2017/08/24/boy-p.../#Axp7jK0Nimqo

    That article confirms opinions on a subject discussed here a year ago, or so, about how women wanted to direct companies producing X
    not because they were passionate about product X, but because they were passionate about being directors.

    Which, again, confirms your points under "uninteded consequences ....".

    M

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