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  • Feminists could have saved the day

    Hi,

    at least they think so. Or, at least one of them wrote a book about it (without really mentioning thinking).
    Amanda Marcote interiewing Laurie Penny, under a rather inappropriate heading:

    http://www.salon.com/2017/08/16/they...rried-a-price/

    This is how feminists think about themselves and the world, and, more importantly, about you.

    M


    Undiluted Hatred of Men may be harmful to your health.
    Slippery surfaces from highly concentrated anti-logic; Pls wear safety equipment.

  • #2
    Why do you think that the right has become so nihilistic in that way? I mean, it started with Gamergate
    This people is crazy... how gamergate is a far right movement??? it is just people playing videogames, not a political party... they really see monsters everywhere.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by simpleman View Post
      This people is crazy... how gamergate is a far right movement??? it is just people playing videogames, not a political party... they really see monsters everywhere.
      Shocking, when we all for so long took Femminism to be a rational endeavour for the good of all humanity, isn't it ...?
      So yes, finding out that they live in a Twilight Zone reality of their own making is as disappointing as it is revealing, and at the same time not very surprising.


      This, btw, is why marxists do not like feminists:

      This idea that gender and race and issues of identity are somehow at odds with the real leftist agenda or of class and economics, it’s not just offensive. It’s factually incorrect. That’s what gets me about is that you cannot have a proper analysis of class and economic power without looking at gendered labor and without looking at race.

      It doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t make economic sense in any country in the world, but particularly not in the United States where the entire class system is predicated on slavery and predicated on that kind of annexation of human labor. The entire way that jobs and wage labor works is predicated on the fact that a lot of people do a great deal of the work that needs to be done in society for free, mainly women, often women of color, and this is basic economics.

      It’s not a matter of cultural politics. It’s economically idiotic to argue that you can talk about class only through an objective lens, which obviously means white guys.

      Although she does hit the nail on the head sometimes:

      I get quite upset about this because I’m obviously an emotional lady and nobody should listen to anything I say ...

      M

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Manalysis View Post
        Hi,

        at least they think so. Or, at least one of them wrote a book about it (without really mentioning thinking).
        Amanda Marcote interiewing Laurie Penny, under a rather inappropriate heading:

        http://www.salon.com/2017/08/16/they...rried-a-price/

        This is how feminists think about themselves and the world, and, more importantly, about you.

        M


        Undiluted Hatred of Men may be harmful to your health.
        Slippery surfaces from highly concentrated anti-logic; Pls wear safety equipment.

        Isn't it funny how Feminists blather on incessantly, but at the end of the day they never *PRODUCE* anything except misery and division. That seems to be their stock in trade-- their one true product and export.
        FEMINISM is a HATE GROUP - Feminists are HATEFUL PEOPLE
        It's time to call it out for what it is.



        The World of Men - Men's Rights / MGTOW / Sites of Interest to Men

        http://forums.avoiceformen.com/showt...nterest-to-Men

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        • #5
          Please use https://archive.is
          See how easy that was https://archive.is/X0QrS
          Interested in men rights activism in the Sydney area ?
          Go to mensrightssydney.com

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mr_e View Post
            Isn't it funny how Feminists blather on incessantly, but at the end of the day they never *PRODUCE* anything except misery and division. That seems to be their stock in trade-- their one true product and export.
            Yes, but the big question is: is that because they are feminists, or because they are women ...?

            If there is truth to the trope that feminism is merely gynocentrism writ society-large, then everything feminism does, is done by proxy anyway.
            You don't see feminists personally crush men in divorce and drive them to suicide. They have people for that.

            M

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Imdefender View Post
              Please use https://archive.is
              See how easy that was https://archive.is/X0QrS

              Fine thing, thank you.
              But pls note that this loses the audio segment, which was the point.

              M

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              • #8
                Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                This people is crazy... how gamergate is a far right movement??? it is just people playing videogames, not a political party... they really see monsters everywhere.
                so true!!!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                  This people is crazy... how gamergate is a far right movement??? it is just people playing videogames, not a political party... they really see monsters everywhere.
                  1. Gamergate is anti-women (since they 'harassed' one sub-par critic who happened to be female)
                  2. Therefore Gamergate is anti-feminist (since all women are feminists, and feminists are all women)
                  3. Feminism is left
                  4. What is not-left, must be right.
                  5. Ergo: Gamergate = NS Ku Klux DAP Klan

                  See how easy that was? With The Them I'm sure it's already merely a subliminal process by now.

                  M

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                  • #10
                    funny traffic is so low after red pill movie, and feminists crazier than ever.

                    it would seem mhra hasn't taken off.
                    A man can gain no more respect than by, laying down his life for a woman. And a woman, no more than by, beating down a man. For a man to ask, what is fair and good and true and just, is to offend.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by menrppl2 View Post
                      funny traffic is so low after red pill movie, and feminists crazier than ever.

                      it would seem mhra hasn't taken off.
                      MHRA crawls along, people realising what's going on. Feminism isn't going to fall so easy, it's deeply embedded institutional power, fed by universities, endlessly pumped on the media and has a fanatical cult in celebrity and hollywood culture. TRP did a lot of good, but it's a crack in a large and aggressive entity.

                      Feminism also is a superiority cult, MHRM is about boring old justice, fairness and equality. No encouraging people to play victim olympics, doesn't tell people to feel morally and sexually superior, doesn't excuse bad behaviour or make hating a heroic act. I think it's tortoise vs the hare.

                      Also politicians are fair weather friends. You'll notice that feminists are crazier than ever but conservatives, classical liberals, libertarians have spoken up more, a lot of people have placed their bets on Trump, but MHRM isn't really on people's radar, empathy gap and gynocentrism are as strong as ever. But good news trickles through, Betsy Devos is seriously critical of Title IX, and that could start a serious review of Duluth model and rape culture. Feminism is hot air and screaming, but they got a lot of people doing it, Australia they could have seriously overplayed their hand. I don't think the average Australians are that stupid. Canada may have headed to become full on cuckistan but even there the resistance has been profound.

                      The far leftard have overplayed hand after hand and basically taxed peoples good will by always claiming to be representing the underdogs and vulnerable, but Antifa have shown a very different face, and even BLM are getting sick of them.

                      Also MHRMs campaigning has made a difference, when I first reviewed DV government literature over 10 years it was 100% male blaming and hating, everything was about how vile men were and how victimised were women, 5 years after that there was a small chink when a a few categories of men were added to the support services, gay men, young male victims of parental or sibling abuse, the feminists had allowed a rather silly category to be discussed - that is male victims of their female partners where the females incorrectly pre-emptively attacked or projected their prior abuser onto the male. Now you can review quite a lot of DV sites, and yes still massively stacked in favour of women (which you don't deny that female DV and IPV victims need support) but they also have (sometimes a bit buried) but information which says DV happens to men too, and all DV is wrong. You get some shelters and support services slowly opening up to men, still a lot to do, but without the MHRM nothing would have happened.

                      We need to keep pushing on education, young men are being screwed out of a future and that is unforgivable and family and divorce court remains a disaster, but lots of men are waking up to the dangers of getting into relationships with women that involve any property sharing let alone marriage. MGTOW guys have a never going back to the plantation attitude and more and more people can see why. Women against feminism are also getting a little bolder and they need to pushed forward, feminism stole their voice and dictated their future without ever asking them, without ever winning an election it just claimed to be speaking for all women, and a lot of them are seeing that for what it is - theft of their democratic rights and destructive to the relationships that they want.

                      Progress is slow and frustrating, but it's not a matter of if, but when.
                      "...especially when it comes to communication, it can be observed, if it is not a negotiation it's a war."
                      Originally posted by menrppl2
                      Can't live with em, life is great without them.

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                      • #12
                        When media comprised books, newspapers, tv and radio, you needed a printing press, or a radio or tv tower to express an idea.

                        With the age of the internet, anyone can shit out any idea and broadcast it, even make money on it with ads.

                        "Clickbait" becomes a thing, where one week they argue that milk is bad for you, and then a week later they publish the exact opposite, milk is good for you a study finds.

                        You see this in media all the time, "Feminism is bad," and then a week later on the same site, "Feminism is good."

                        It's basically like they're saying, "You guys argue about it, just make sure to click on the ads."

                        The high mucky-mucks of society operate on a kind of Sociopathy where in public they say, "I am a committed Feminist!" while looting the system ass-to-mouth.

                        It's not so much an ideology but a business. "Professor of Gender Studies" pulling in 80 grand, or getting hired as "Chief Diversity Officer." It beats working for a living.

                        Like if I know there's a feminist meeting or a "Wonder Woman" screening, I can show up there to sell "I <3 Feminism" t-shirts.

                        You see someone working for NBC, next week they are working for Fox News. "My opinions and experiences have evolved" yeah, no shit. For $500k/year my experiences would evolve too.

                        And at some level everybody knows the game.

                        You wouldn't need a Republican without a Democrat, they need each other to mobilize their own donors, it's like a choreographed dance.

                        Giving rise to theories of "The Deep State" like it's the Illuminati controlling both parties.

                        It's not a deep state, it's a money state, you don't kill off your opponents, you make it an epic battle like Mayweather vs McGregor to keep people paying their $39.95, meanwhile the boxers are winking and nodding at each other like "ok let's give the fans a good show, RAWR RAWR!"

                        Meanwhile the average prole in the bleeder seats are thinking, "Wow they're really kicking the shit out of each other!"

                        I can guarantee you that Clementine Ford has no plans to actualize her feminine energy anytime soon.

                        In fact I'm pretty sure she has no plans to do anything but sit on her fat ass and go "blah blah blah blahse blah blah."

                        And for this heroic act, a ton of retards out there will fund her Patreon or GoFundMe or whatever "tip jar" she has.

                        It's a nice racket if you can get into it.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dubs View Post
                          You see someone working for NBC, next week they are working for Fox News. "My opinions and experiences have evolved" yeah, no shit. For $500k/year my experiences would evolve too.
                          'What you do for a living influences what you believe' ...?
                          See, at heart you're already a believer in Marx

                          And at some level everybody knows the game.
                          There I must diagree. I think it says it all that you even have to write this piece of media criticism; that this is not simply common sense and common knowledge that this is how the world works.

                          But I guess they learned their lesson from "The Wizard of Oz", and are working their asses off to stay behind the blessed curtain.
                          McLuhan was right, we are being infotained to death.

                          M

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by voidspawn View Post
                            MHRA crawls along, people realising what's going on. Feminism isn't going to fall so easy, it's deeply embedded institutional power, fed by universities, endlessly pumped on the media and has a fanatical cult in celebrity and hollywood culture. TRP did a lot of good, but it's a crack in a large and aggressive entity.
                            Yes, TRP did, but I fear that far fewer people have been going to actually see it than there were people reading about it in media; and in the media, the story wasn't "Men have been given a shitty deal", but "One Lone Woman's Fight To Follow Her Dream".
                            Perhaps. I don't know, I'm shooting in the dark. But such an effect would also serve to explain the sudden loss of impetus we're seeing.

                            I think it's tortoise vs the hare. ... But good news trickles through, Betsy Devos is seriously critical of Title IX, and that could start a serious review of Duluth model and rape culture.
                            Yes, and that is very important. It's not the best, merely a very very good thing to be hoped for, namely a series of Feminist-type Small Step Victories that fly under the radar, but accumulate into something hefty.

                            Also MHRMs campaigning has made a difference ... without the MHRM nothing would have happened.
                            True. Through AVfM, mr PE has singlehandedly cracked the dam of silencing, and no amount of fingers in wet cracks will put the dykes together again.

                            We need to keep pushing on education, young men are being screwed out of a future and that is unforgivable
                            Yes. There should be something like 'A Voice for Boys' (probably "Da Voiz 4 Boiz" today ...), either in books or web sites or pop music lyrics. Single player marriage survival games. Lord of the Flings. Anything. Whatever. Just reach them.

                            lots of men are waking up to the dangers of getting into relationships with women that involve any property sharing let alone marriage.
                            Here's where I would go with simpleman's proposal to help protect resources from _any_ interference. Cache as Cash can.

                            Progress is slow and frustrating, but it's not a matter of if, but when.
                            From your lips to Loki's ears.

                            M

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                            • #15
                              ya lots of anti fems on youtube

                              lots of guys mgtow that never even heard the word

                              avfm mainpage has slowed on content

                              the forums are a lot of bs


                              but PE definetly started something.......just surprises me, millions of fucked over guys every day, and they don't even seem to care themselves

                              it was a cool thing to be part of, but , im getting the feeling, I've seen it beginning to end.
                              Last edited by menrppl2; 09-12-2017, 03:47 PM.
                              A man can gain no more respect than by, laying down his life for a woman. And a woman, no more than by, beating down a man. For a man to ask, what is fair and good and true and just, is to offend.

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