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  • Is Feminism a shit test?

    Found this comment on Reddit ;

    Historically, a minority of men reproduced. If porn is one of the many things that distract and keeps inferior men out of the reproductive pool, then good?

    When I said "shitty real-life partners" I may have been speaking from the perspective of a certain group of men, the "Rejected". There are a lot of men "quitting", good? They are weak. Men who say "fuck your rules" have always been naturally more attractive to mate with. So if fear of the new laws causes certain males to "chill out" or not even make an effort, then good?

    It is quite possible that everything that is happening, the insanity of our court system, may be entirely organic and what needs to occur to keep the pool clean.

    With technology headed in the current direction, we may be branching into a time where we have the smallest percentage of males reproduce in known human history.

    My comment: so there we have it, feminism is a high level mating shit test and if you pass it, you can still end up in jail or broke living on the streets due to all the legal fees you incurred defending yourself.
    My comment :

    There are different reproductive strategies, some that conform to social and legal norms, and others that rely on stealth, cunning or high-risk. Some guys try to be friends first, cultivating a relationship over a long period of time. Other guys just quickly approach 100 women in rapid-fire for ONS or FWB.

    Currently society favors the low-risk strategy of LTR's, as ONS or FWB tend to be marginal and can accuse you of stuff, also LTR's have a higher chance of being amicable without any "suing you for child support" or any of that. Whereas ONS or FWB, she might get knocked up and forget your name, or confuse you with another guy, then she's raising your child and you're free and clear to try with other women and expand your harem, but it's a high risk strategy that can include rape allegations, "I was drunk," or just plain getting served papers in the mail.

    I should note that the above strategies are for girls as well as guys. In other words girls who engage in ONS/FWB strategy are also taking big risks.

    The upside for girls engaging in ONS/FWB is the chance to mate with an outlaw/rogue alpha rather than some timid law-abiding "nice guy" aka beta provider.

    Again all of the above is subject to politics and interpretation.

    A case can be made that law-abiding beta providers aren't less capable or ambitious than outlaws/rogues alphas, but their strength lie in social cooperation and harmony.

    In other words it's just a different overall life strategy and nobody knows in 5000 years which genes will be the winners or losers.

    Generally speaking yes.

    Porn weeds out the non-hackers.

    Likewise gynocentric laws and such also dissuade guys from participation in reproduction.

    They basically throw their hands up like "I give up, this is bullshit." Well that was the whole point, to push you out of the game.

    Likewise incels, society pushes them out of the dating pool, when they try to fight back they get scorn from society.

    Is it fair?

    Of course not, life is visciously unfair, and maybe you /are/ a victim but guess what there's lots of victims, and none of that actually helps you.

    It doesn't help to say "life is unfair," because you still won't get what you want.

    It doesn't help to say "society is gynocentric" because you still won't get what you want.

    [will continue writing this later]

  • #2
    as ive travelled ive found places where a nice working guy is valued over the outlaw/rogue.

    attraction varies,,,,,,,,probably has to do with how much women can afford a boy toy.

    but sure id agree, survival of the fittest is part of reproduction, however, I wont agree that ppl need to be silent to injustice and unfairness.

    "maybe" it doesn't help to say society is gynocentric or courts are unfair................but it definetly doesn't help to remain silent about it.

    frankly ive found your badgering of myself for sharing court experience on a mens human rights site, misplaced. maybe the constant railing about shutting up about gynocentricism and injustice message, and focus on getting laid and reproducing, would be better on a pickup artist site.

    or better yet, if everyones supposed to be preoccupied with reproduction, maybe give it a try yourself.
    Last edited by menrppl2; 05-05-2018, 03:56 AM.
    A man can gain no more respect than by, laying down his life for a woman. And a woman, no more than by, beating down a man. For a man to ask, what is fair and good and true and just, is to offend.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by menrppl2 View Post
      as ive travelled ive found places where a nice working guy is valued over the outlaw/rogue.

      attraction varies,,,,,,,,probably has to do with how much women can afford a boy toy.

      but sure id agree, survival of the fittest is part of reproduction, however, I wont agree that ppl need to be silent to injustice and unfairness.

      "maybe" it doesn't help to say society is gynocentric or courts are unfair................but it definetly doesn't help to remain silent about it.

      frankly ive found your badgering of myself for sharing court experience on a mens human rights site, misplaced. maybe the constant railing about shutting up about gynocentricism and injustice message, and focus on getting laid and reproducing, would be better on a pickup artist site.

      or better yet, if everyones supposed to be preoccupied with reproduction, maybe give it a try yourself.
      Indeed, suffering in silence while feminazis abuse the system with impunity is no way to make a stand for justice. #BreakTheSilence, expose the double standards and red pill the next generation is what humanity needs!

      As for reproduction.. I think it's overrated.
      ~~~ PEr aRDUa ad asTrA ~~~
      (through adversity to the stars)

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      • #4

        A "nice working guy" is valued over an outlaw in EVERY country.

        That's why outlaws are called "outlaws."

        Your mistake is in thinking you're the nice guy when actually you're just a guy who doesn't like the rules and think it ought to favor you more.

        Nothing wrong with that, but it's a dime-a-dozen mentality.

        Literally everyone thinks the rules ought to favor them more.

        But few actually go outside of these constructs to see them for what they are and why they exist.

        ~~~~

        Scenario A - Guy gets married, pushes out 2.5 kids, divorce at 40, goes thru the family court meatgrinder, and then thru the child-support meatgrinder. Is he likely to come back for seconds?

        Scenario B - Same guy shows up on forums, "oh it was terrible, they hounded me day and night, took my driver's license so I couldn't get to work, I had to sleep in a garage and eat out of a food bank." Now the guys reading this and seeing this, are they likely to sign up for firsts?

        ~~~~

        The system is doing what it's designed to do.

        Namely dissuade men from reproduction, make it difficult and onerous and scary.

        By contrast it gives these guys an easy way out.

        Porn.

        In this manner it weeds out the non-hackers and keeps their shitty genes out of the pool.

        ~~~~

        It's sort of like requiring every business to put up a $2 million bond.

        The ones that can do that, usually have the chops for the business world.

        The ones that go "omg $2 million, that's ridiculous" aren't real businessmen in the first place.

        Whether or not that's actually good for the country, good for tax revenues, that's a whoooole other topic.

        ~~~~

        It would be disingenuous for me to speculate on whether I'm personally a hacker or a non-hacker

        I like to think I am, but so does every guy, and who really knows?

        Economically I'm pretty successful, romantically maybe a little less so, I still don't have kids (that I know of) but the opportunities are there. Whether and how much I'd like to invest in that endeavor are something of a personal quandry, but I'm not overly preoccupied by it. If it happens then it happens, and if not then it won't.

        ~~~~

        I suppose my interest in red pill theory is more academic than personal.

        I find this shit intrinsically fascinating.

        I don't do game to get laid, I do game because I love game, likewise I don't do red pill theory for personal gain, I do it because I love it. I'm like a natural social-scientist observing and reporting.

        That doesn't preclude me from helping out the cause of men's rights, or helping out individual guys that I see struggling.

        ~~~~

        By the way, the "shit test" is not only for men.

        It also tests women.

        The ones that make themselves ugly and/or hate men, they've obviously failed at life.

        You see tons and tons of "career women" out there who froze their eggs and said, "let me do my career first" and never got around to making time for reproduction.

        Alot of them are extremely bitter and depressed about it.

        Misogyny/Misandry is a kind of trap that people fall into.

        Their minds fall into that trap and they can't see the world in any way other than "the war of the sexes."

        "The game" is as brutal on women as it is on men and I've seen it firsthand.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by dubs View Post
          ...
          "The game" is as brutal on women as it is on men and I've seen it firsthand.
          I think your analysis is defective because you fail to focus on what "the game" is really about: Evolving our species to become more fit for survival.
          In bygone era this involved two partners cooperating in symbiosis to educate and raise their children thus improving their chances in competition.
          This required LTR bonding, in which the emotion "love" played a more significant part than "lust".

          In your game scenario the woman reduces herself to a sex object and society makes her a child-like "victim", exonerated from responsibility. Children she does conceive will run the gauntlet of abortions, fetal substance abuse thru the mother, poverty, congenital disease, violence, lack of education, poor role models... and their best option is often little more than social benefits from the government.

          OTOH in your mind, your "game" is what you want, so how does it work for the ultimate "shit test": will your 'Selfish Genes*" still be around in the 22nd century? (*book by Richard Dawkins explaining what it's REALLY all about)? You do realize that your relative financial success and lack of commitment to your ONS partners make U prime candidate for a good rinse, alimony and a paternity suit, that will not serve your genetic offspring in which you will have no choice?
          ~~~ PEr aRDUa ad asTrA ~~~
          (through adversity to the stars)

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          • #6
            nice, lectured on how life is and what it looks like and what it means by a tranny.

            FFS
            "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

            And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

            "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
            "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

            "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

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            • #7
              Working out what's wrong here yet?
              Last edited by MatrixTransform; 05-06-2018, 10:58 AM.
              "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

              And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

              "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
              "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

              "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

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              • #8

                What the Canadian system is attempting to do essentially is put the brakes on hypergamy.

                By saying, "1 wife per lifetime" because 1 divorce is all most men can afford.

                So you choose relationships carefully and try to make them last.

                If divorce were "fair" you'd have alpha chads with 15 ex-wives and 87 kids.

                Also gives low-status men an opportunity to have families.

                You can betabucks a wife and 2.5 kids and be %99.999 sure they're yours.

                The entire topic boils down to money.

                "How much do I have to work, and how much relationship can I get for it."

                As Manalysis would say, "the game" is always "cherchez le money."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MatrixTransform View Post
                  Working out what's wrong here yet?
                  "tranny" or not, did U work it out yet?

                  Playing 'game' begets kids but doesn't make the players act like parents.

                  Do you love your wife?
                  Do you love your kids?
                  Do you love your dog?
                  ... or do you just love playing game?
                  It's only half the story.
                  ~~~ PEr aRDUa ad asTrA ~~~
                  (through adversity to the stars)

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                  • #10

                    Most men don't have a problem feeling "love."

                    They have a problem using the other half of their brain.

                    Women pretend to be emotional but act rationally.

                    Men pretend to be rational but act emotionally.

                    It's something we constantly have to check, becoming overly sentimental, becoming overly attached to a person who doesn't appreciate or deserve us.

                    Your idea is that guys just manipulate women into having sex.

                    That's what lots of people think.

                    The mating dance is the mating dance, but beyond that it's men and not women who end up emotionally devastated and socially isolated while the woman prances along getting a laundry-machine of positive affirmations and validation.

                    As a man, if someone isn't accusing you of being an asshole then you're probably being taken advantage of.

                    You're an asshole for valuing your own time and energy.

                    You're an asshole for valuing your own legal rights.

                    You're an asshole for valuing your own health and peace.

                    Unless you're out there destroying yourself to make a woman's life better, then you're an asshole and what's wrong with you and don't you love your dog.

                    I agree that men leaving marriage and LTR's is bad for society.

                    It's bad for society, it's bad for western civ.

                    But maybe it's time for men to prioritize themselves for a change, prioritize themselves over "society" and over "civilization."

                    "Society" threw its men overboard 50 years ago.

                    Men have no responsibility to society, none whatsoever beyond quid pro quo.
                    Last edited by dubs; 05-06-2018, 07:50 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Angelica View Post
                      "tranny" or not, did U work it out yet?
                      You've been skulking around AVFM forums for very long time.
                      recommend you dont play the semantic game with me mate

                      Most people have grace enough to overlook or ignore, or even not give a shit about somebody else's antics
                      What is bloody annoying is that somebody like yourself, a waking talking semantic, starts giving advice on life and relationships as if you have a handle on how they really work.
                      your gibber from the liminal reaches of society is hollow.
                      and even more so here

                      Whats wrong around here is that you seem to believe you have a special insight.
                      Whats wrong is that a bunch of real people are somehow expected to accommodate it.

                      The reason you are rarely engaged in this place is because it is tacitly understood that youre simply an attention-whore.
                      And believe it or not, the focus here, isnt you.

                      no matter how pretty you think you look, youre just wanker with a foot in each camp.
                      Want some credibility? ... then cut yr balls off instead of pretending
                      "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

                      And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

                      "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
                      "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

                      "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MatrixTransform View Post
                        ...

                        Want some credibility? ... then cut yr balls off instead of pretending
                        I already did.
                        My opinions on relationships are based on lived experiences, from back when I still had them.
                        ~~~ PEr aRDUa ad asTrA ~~~
                        (through adversity to the stars)

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                        • #13
                          well isn't this fun lol

                          anyway to recap, mgtow is the way, men owe society and women nothing, speaking out against injustice is good, and being an asshole is fun easy and even admirable
                          A man can gain no more respect than by, laying down his life for a woman. And a woman, no more than by, beating down a man. For a man to ask, what is fair and good and true and just, is to offend.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dubs View Post
                            Most men don't have a problem feeling "love."
                            ...
                            It's something we constantly have to check, becoming overly sentimental, becoming overly attached to a person who doesn't appreciate or deserve us.
                            I know... this is what makes men so vulnerable when the woman loses interest in the LTR... he still loves her and has a tendency to carry on acting in the interests of her welfare.

                            Originally posted by dubs View Post
                            Your idea is that guys just manipulate women into having sex.

                            That's what lots of people think.

                            The mating dance is the mating dance, but beyond that it's men and not women who end up emotionally devastated and socially isolated while the woman prances along getting a laundry-machine of positive affirmations and validation.
                            I may have misunderstood what U were saying.
                            I thought that's what you were advocating as "game", because then U won't ever be emotionally devastated, by a break up?
                            It is precisely in the man's nature to be bonded by love and in the woman's nature to be seeking attention so that she can control him thru desire.

                            Originally posted by dubs View Post
                            As a man, if someone isn't accusing you of being an asshole then you're probably being taken advantage of.

                            You're an asshole for valuing your own time and energy.

                            You're an asshole for valuing your own legal rights.

                            You're an asshole for valuing your own health and peace.

                            Unless you're out there destroying yourself to make a woman's life better, then you're an asshole and what's wrong with you and don't you love your dog.

                            I agree that men leaving marriage and LTR's is bad for society.

                            It's bad for society, it's bad for western civ.

                            But maybe it's time for men to prioritize themselves for a change, prioritize themselves over "society" and over "civilization."

                            "Society" threw its men overboard 50 years ago.

                            Men have no responsibility to society, none whatsoever beyond quid pro quo.
                            feminism seems to be creating the false stereotypes as a self fulfilling prophecy...

                            ~~~ PEr aRDUa ad asTrA ~~~
                            (through adversity to the stars)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Angelica View Post
                              My opinions on relationships are based on lived experiences, from back when I still had them.
                              my point exactly
                              "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

                              And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

                              "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
                              "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

                              "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

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