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    is there a more active mra site everybody went too?
    A man can gain no more respect than by, laying down his life for a woman. And a woman, no more than by, beating down a man. For a man to ask, what is fair and good and true and just, is to offend.

  • #2
    I was wondering the same thing. The sad reality is probably that most people don't care. I think it was posted here, but the video that the Honey Badger Alison did recently on why the MRA movement isn't working was really spot on. In the end, she was soliciting donations for the Honey Badgers, which I totally respect by the way, but the point she made in the video was almost too strong. If I can find the link again, I will post it.

    In any event, the fact that nobody cares about men's issues is a big part of our evolutionary success. Having a disposable gender that will throw themselves on any grenade that needs to be covered while the other gender focuses on repopulating has been a highly successful strategy. We (including other men) seem to be hard wired to not give a damn about men's issues. We tend to find a man having issues to be weak and repugnant. Correspondingly any movement that reflects these issues is going to be viewed in a like manner.

    Those of us wise enough to see how this is being taken to an extreme in the modern world are seriously in the minority. I don't hold out much hope that it can be changed. As JBP points out however, you have to continue to fight the good fight. It really is the only option.
    I used to think collapse was inevitable. Now I realize it is necessary.

    It was only a matter of time before the bicycles realized that they in fact did not need the fish.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pbisque View Post
      I was wondering the same thing.
      I've been wondering for a year or so, when the trend started.

      The sad reality is probably that most people don't care.
      But the new thing is that the people who did care, don't care anymore.
      In 2016 there were dozens of new posts every day, with 20 or 30 regular posters opening new threads all the time.
      Ubi sunt, amici, Maxx, Mr E, Matrix ...?
      Yes, men are disposabe, but there were a lot of things going on here. Human nature don't change in two years.

      What happened?
      Did the forum itself suffer from an unfavourable signal-to-noise rate? I could argue that, but I won't.

      In a wider context, perhaps people got tired of the 'all words, no action' proceedings among MRAs in general.
      Or people felt that Cassie Jay had put it all out there, and there wasn't much more to be gained by continuing to post here.

      But mainly I think Trump happened.
      Our opponents suddenly became "the opposition", while we became part of the "ruling elite" .... without getting any victory dividend, since Trump is something of a tradcon, too,
      The national conversation in the US became a lot more politicized, or: turned into a pro-Trump vs. anti-Trump mud slinging match. Little room for anything else.

      M






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      • #4
        there has been improvement in mens rights too, especially in britian.

        perhaps it will happen in waves and this is a lull
        A man can gain no more respect than by, laying down his life for a woman. And a woman, no more than by, beating down a man. For a man to ask, what is fair and good and true and just, is to offend.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Manalysis View Post
          What happened?
          Reap what you sow

          People do care about Men's Rights ... it is just that this forum ceased being about that and became some sort of idiotic farce.

          "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

          And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

          "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
          "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

          "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Angelica
            MRA and MGTOW have been tarnished with negative connotations of criticizing women's behavior rather than focusing on men's issues and self respect.
            In that they are of course absolutely no worse than feminism is for the way it demonizes men.
            I think the younger guys don't want to be associated with the negativity and just want to get on with their lives hoping that the girl they fall for isn't going to be like those stereotypes that advocates like Sandman describe.
            You should fuck off.
            "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one" - Charles Mackay

            And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. - Donne

            "What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: 'I am a wretchedly longstanding victim; therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition.'
            "It is the most perfect trump-card against accountable living ever devised." - Gladden Schrock

            "What remains for most men in modern life is a world of expectation without reward, burden without honor and service without self" - Paul Elam

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Manalysis View Post
              In 2016 there were dozens of new posts every day, with 20 or 30 regular posters opening new threads all the time.
              Ubi sunt, amici, Maxx, Mr E, Matrix ...?
              Yes, men are disposabe, but there were a lot of things going on here. Human nature don't change in two years.
              I largely stopped trying when the majority of threads I created started going without comment. (Ironically it wasn't the ones that probably warranted no comment).
              "...but when she goes off you, she will not just walk away, she will walk away with your fucking skin in a jar." ~~ DoctorRandomercam
              "The laws of man, they don't apply when blood gets in a woman's eye" - The Black Keys

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MatrixTransform View Post

                You should fuck off.
                Fine... I'm out and get fuct ypurself asshole.
                ~~~ PEr aRDUa ad asTrA ~~~
                (through adversity to the stars)

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                • #9
                  I believe this forum did a lot of good for a lot of guys for awhile, it certainly seen me thru rough times.

                  kinda sad to see it die
                  A man can gain no more respect than by, laying down his life for a woman. And a woman, no more than by, beating down a man. For a man to ask, what is fair and good and true and just, is to offend.

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                  • #10
                    When MRA and MGTOW became commonly known, some guys probably became afraid of being associated with it.

                    This forum might not be getting much activity these days, but plenty of red-pill men are out there. Just look at the comment section of any article in which a woman complains about manhood failing womanhood. Nobody lights up a comment section like we do.

                    I too have taken a break, but I'm going to start posting again. Even if it's just a few of us for a while, these forums are still a repository of men's reflections about our position in the scheme of things. Many young men are coming into adulthood and don't understand what's happening around them. Whether those young men post or lurk, I want these forums to be here and to be current for them.

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                    • #11
                      This place was like a casuakty clearing station. People turned up syaing, essentaially, “Am I fucking crazy, or is the current maninstream view about gender relations completely the wrong way round?”.
                      Then they learned that no, they weren’t crazy, and found out that other isolated people shared their views.
                      Then they hung around for a while until they got fed up with a gradual procession of ‘single issue’ ranters, and realised that not much got organised here, but armed with a new sense of self worth they had less and less need to remain active here.
                      And, most critically, all those issues that we worried about are now openly discussed in the mainstream. Media and politicians actively discuss men’s issue and point out the unfairness. and, finally, some of the more egregious things are being acted upon.
                      People don’t need to come here any more because the conversation is happening in public.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cpb View Post
                        This place was like a casuakty clearing station. People turned up syaing, essentaially, “Am I fucking crazy, or is the current maninstream view about gender relations completely the wrong way round?”.
                        Then they learned that no, they weren’t crazy, and found out that other isolated people shared their views.
                        Then they hung around for a while until they got fed up with a gradual procession of ‘single issue’ ranters, and realised that not much got organised here, but armed with a new sense of self worth they had less and less need to remain active here.
                        And, most critically, all those issues that we worried about are now openly discussed in the mainstream. Media and politicians actively discuss men’s issue and point out the unfairness. and, finally, some of the more egregious things are being acted upon.
                        People don’t need to come here any more because the conversation is happening in public.
                        Lord Loki grant that you are right. And I guess you are; you and mr WontStepUp, too. That means that things are better in MRA-land than I feared.
                        AFAICS that leaves us here in the forum with one question: if our old role is played out, what will be the new one?
                        If we are no longer to be a casualty-clearing station for single issue ranters, then what are we to be?

                        Since there is no "movement" - and even if there were, this forum would not be it - could it be some sort of clearing house for MRA- and MGTOW-stuff people don't find elsewhere? A handbook of anti-feminist arguments? Can we establish a form of digital campaigning, or make up some new way?

                        M

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                        • #13
                          Men are red pilled every day. It would be nice if a somewhat vibrant community was still around to receive these guys and let them know they aren't crazy. Maybe we are in a lull right now, but I see so many blue pill millennial walking around, at least where I live. Eventually some of those guys are going to crack. It's worth it to have a forum where anger can be vented but not fomented. Even if one Eliot Rogers is prevented, it's worth it. Guys need to know there are options other than burning it all down.
                          I used to think collapse was inevitable. Now I realize it is necessary.

                          It was only a matter of time before the bicycles realized that they in fact did not need the fish.

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                          • #14
                            brexit trump, even conservatives got a majority in leftist feminist socialist Ontario

                            the politically correct leftist socialist feminist elitist monopoly doesnt seem to be without challenge anymore......feminist is challenged, even if it is only in comment sections.....some mens issues are being addressed in some places.

                            there certainly are a lot of red pill mgtow youtubers to welcome the causualties

                            maybe we are in a times are changing wait and see period! a lot has happened since I joined oct 2012

                            well i'll drink to that!

                            ive seen the future for mens rights, it spoke to me thru my daughter...........its in the hearts and minds of our children, they don't like the way there fathers were treated, and it said to me,"our generation is now coming to power"

                            feminists planted the seeds for there demise in the children of there targets
                            Last edited by menrppl2; 06-16-2018, 04:50 PM.
                            A man can gain no more respect than by, laying down his life for a woman. And a woman, no more than by, beating down a man. For a man to ask, what is fair and good and true and just, is to offend.

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                            • #15
                              Now that I'm thinking about it, I noticed a lot of fall off when the forum was upgraded. I know I had login problems for a while. Perhaps people just decided it wasn't worth working through.
                              I used to think collapse was inevitable. Now I realize it is necessary.

                              It was only a matter of time before the bicycles realized that they in fact did not need the fish.

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