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  • #76

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    You asked me what wold i think if the majority of the population in Israel decide to take a Palestinian identity, I answered that it will be a failure to the zionist experiment...

    3 messages later you still babbling about something and no making any point yet...
    For most people, if their country falls apart, they have nowhere else to go, it's not an "experiment."

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    Very weak justification to do evil... if we don't do it then someone else will??? relly?

    Then let them russians and argentinians to do it... why we have to have the monopoly on war profiteering?
    You're conflating 2 different things.

    1. Is the US Arms industry that arms and equips the US, it's allies, including the Mexican army, NATO, etc etc.

    2. Is gun smugglers and crooked officials who take bribes to arm the cartels.

    If you'd like to make a case against #1, you're free to do that, I mean people like Ron Paul (and to a certain extent Donald J Trump) have been arguing for isolationism, paring back our global military footprint and/or only providing US security umbrella for those countries that pay for it. For that they've been called Russian agents and all sorts of things by the likes of McCain and other hawks.

    The wall can be seen as isolationism.

    It's like saying, "We're not going to send US agents into Mexico anymore, we'll just build a wall and stay on our side of the border."

    As you say, walls don't keep out legal travellers, it's an attempt to militarize the border against smugglers and criminals.

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    I am goign to assume here that you have manufactured a lot of guns yourself and you are talking from your experience... Or maybe you don't know what you are talking about... again... Here a picture of a lower receiver of an AK47, look at it and imagine the machinery necessary to produce it, and if it is not build with a strict level of precision (military graded quality, they said) the thing will blow on your face when you try to use it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FinRqCocwGE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq1TXEE_QK4

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    I thought you said you liked Mexicans and they are all your friends... what happened to that?
    The mexicans I know call themselves Americans.

    Most have served in the military and vote hard-right.

    That does not mean I (or they) want cholos in our backyard.

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    Most of the shootings are actually by middle age white americans.. have you ever read the stats? Mexicans as a population have a low level of crime.

    Here, first search result, an FBI stats that says you claim is not true.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ables/table-43
    Your chart doesn't have a category for "Mexicans" or latinos for that matter.

    Even if they had zero crime as a group, it doesn't create a right for them to reside here.

    Some may, but they have to be picked on a case-by-case basis.

    The needs of current residents (infrastructure, roads, housing, capacity, etc etc) come first.

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    You call me anti american because I talk about men wearing the US flag and the US uniform to commit crimes
    You presented an article titled, "Colombians accuse US soldiers and officials of rape"

    You presented this not only as fact but as proof of US wrongdoing on a broad national level.

    Calling this sort of hyperbole "anti-American" is like saying the pope is mildly religious.

    My stance then and now is that neither you nor I know enough about the case to comment.

    Except you're a loudmouth and I'm just watching you make a fool of yourself.

    Continue.

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    Search this forums history...
    You call yourself a globalist.

    I take you at your word.

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    They do.
    Non-orthodox conversion is ineligible for immigration purposes.

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    I don't know... Israel is in a war under constant terrorist attacks, I imagine not that many people want to move there on the first place... But you see... asking this is basically demanding quotas of equality, something that we know does not work, as we have seeing how bad such quotas fail.
    Quotas that SJW's support in the west, despite the west being under constant attack by jihadists, mexican cartels and others.

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    Asking me how many non jews immigrate to Israel is the same as asking me how many women study Engineering... are they being blocked?
    Broadly, yes.

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    Escobar got to be that powerful thanks to the support of US, from Operation Condor all the way to Iran-Contra...

    Many of the nasty people down there... you know the ones that melt people in acid.. where you think they learn that from? that is actually a class at the School of the Americas...
    Needs citation

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    so ones you establish that the problem is the color, then there will never be assimilation... a brown will never wash out to white. If you base all your philosophy on darkis and whites, then there is nothing the darkis can do to please you, they are doom from the beginning and that is it...
    In small numbers, assimilation is possible and desirable for biodiversity and genetic variance.

    In large numbers, culturally incompatible, civil unrest, crime, poverty, tribalism.

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    You have being standing up for US soldiers rapin kids.. I wonder now... will you change your tune if I start to paint this soldiers more... d"darkie"... I mean... this rapes happened during Obama administration... and it is very likely that they sent soldiers that speak spanish and understand hispanic culture, maybe even hispanic heritage... If I tell you that the soldiers raping children are "dakies", will this change your opinion on this matter?
    I think you're expressing your tribal feelings as a cultural latino against the "yanquis" with nothing to back it up.

    Darkies raping darkies is normal in south america.

    As are lynchings and mob justice.

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    Well I definitely do no like your vision for this country... My ethno-white friend... Seriuslly you are not even white? so what is your plan if US turns into an ethno white nation?
    I don't force any white person to live with me or next to me.

    If they want to carve out "Whiteistan" that's their business.

    Every identity can form their own communities, coalitions and even countries.

    Personally, I don't see a white ethnostate ever happening.

    I mean even 400 years ago they were boning their slaves and the indians.

    Even 2000 years ago Julius Caesar had a child by Cleopatra.

    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    Hey, I am white... So at least I have that going for me, on your ethno-white nation... sounds like I belong more than you... LOL.
    The only place you belong is Taco Bell (jk)

    Your typing reminds me of Agador from the movie "The Birdcage."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_zqcTYVi98

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    • #77
      Originally posted by dubs View Post
      For most people, if their country falls apart, they have nowhere else to go, it's not an "experiment."
      I didn't made this language up... I used the words appropriately.

      You can also say that US is an experiment in Democracy...

      I don't even know what the hell you are nicpicking now....

      You're conflating 2 different things.

      1. Is the US Arms industry that arms and equips the US, it's allies, including the Mexican army, NATO, etc etc.

      2. Is gun smugglers and crooked officials who take bribes to arm the cartels.

      If you'd like to make a case against #1, you're free to do that, I mean people like Ron Paul (and to a certain extent Donald J Trump) have been arguing for isolationism, paring back our global military footprint and/or only providing US security umbrella for those countries that pay for it. For that they've been called Russian agents and all sorts of things by the likes of McCain and other hawks.
      Question about #2.... the one trafiquing the guns are part of the government.

      The wall can be seen as isolationism.

      It's like saying, "We're not going to send US agents into Mexico anymore, we'll just build a wall and stay on our side of the border."

      As you say, walls don't keep out legal travellers, it's an attempt to militarize the border against smugglers and criminals.
      Isolationism have never improved any nation, all the times it have being practiced have ended up badly for the nation doing it...

      But hey, if you think North Korea is doing so great and we should look more like them... then... why no?

      You start closing borders to keep outers people out, then it ends up turning to prevent people to leave... true on every stance isolationism that have being implemented trough history.

      Even if they had zero crime as a group, it doesn't create a right for them to reside here.
      Well if it does not matter to you, then why I bother researching the topic? Why you even bring the topic up?

      You use the crime of illegals as an excuse to justify your... hate?... but when the numbers starts to look different, then you go for the classy... it does not matter... LOL

      The needs of current residents (infrastructure, roads, housing, capacity, etc etc) come first.
      And the wall... last?

      I don't even see how having illegals around stop the development of infrastructure... It have been days since you said anything that resemble a logical argument.

      You presented an article titled, "Colombians accuse US soldiers and officials of rape"

      You presented this not only as fact but as proof of US wrongdoing on a broad national level.
      The US soldiers made videos and sold them online as porno... There was an investigation by Colombian congress and they have some of those videos as evidence of the events... you keep denying that it ever happened, or that the parents sold the butt of their kids, or whatever excuse you want to make... by the way... even if the parents prostitute the kids.. is this a reason to claim that the soldiers are less criminals? that was your argument at some point?

      My stance then and now is that neither you nor I know enough about the case to comment.

      Except you're a loudmouth and I'm just watching you make a fool of yourself.

      Continue.
      "The victim was a 12-year-old girl. “They abducted her, they drugged her, they took her to the air base near the town of Melgar and raped her,
      they took videos of her
      ,” the victim’s mother told reporters. Then they drove her into town and pushed her out of their car in front of a church."

      The congress of colombia have 3 videos of this events with the US soldiers and that 12 years old girl mentioned here... The soldiers sold this videos online...

      You call yourself a globalist.

      I take you at your word.
      And what is wrong with globalism?

      You know, some 3k years ago we didn't even have countries, we have cities and each city was its own government... But then someone united some cities and made a nation out of it... a very globalist thing to do... if you ask me... somehow you seam to be OK with nations over the independent cities... but not OK with a world wide government...

      Would you explain to me why are you OK with the existence of countries?

      Why you are not advocating to dissolve nations and reestablish city-states?

      Non-orthodox conversion is ineligible for immigration purposes.
      Again???

      here a link from Israel government:

      https://knesset.gov.il/laws/special/eng/return.htm

      This is the actual wording of the law, please quote me the line that support your claim...

      As I said before, there is a at this moment a debate about changing this law and make it ortodox only, and this have triggered another debate about revoking this law entirely, and so no more citizenship through religion for nobody...

      The thing is I read in the jerusalem Post that this change in the law is in the works, and then I see you telling me that it have being in place since inception?

      https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Po...onverts-552540

      The thing is that 2 months ago at Shabbat service my Rabbi was talking about this... but then again you are here repeating the same stupid claim... like as if you know what you are talking about...

      This is the last time I correct you on this... I have gone beyond and above to give you the correct information, and you have being repeating the same stupid thing over and over again... I don't care anymore, I don't know if you are trolling me or if you have some learning disabilities...

      Quotas that SJW's support in the west, despite the west being under constant attack by jihadists, mexican cartels and others.
      That is not my fault...

      Needs citation
      I think you need education...

      In small numbers, assimilation is possible and desirable for biodiversity and genetic variance.

      In large numbers, culturally incompatible, civil unrest, crime, poverty, tribalism.
      And there you are again... when you was getting out of the mess, you back at it...

      What is a "large number"?

      We have being talking about 5 million in US... this is a population of over 300 millions... 5 millions is not a small number?

      I think you're expressing your tribal feelings as a cultural latino against the "yanquis" with nothing to back it up.
      I don't think so, I have never being of the patriotic kind... I was proving your morals, you talked about rapes I talked about rapes, you sing 2 different songs depending on identity politics... I already found out what I was looking for... this is, an understanding of your morals.

      Darkies raping darkies is normal in south america.
      What is the point of you still denying that you are a racist?

      As are lynchings and mob justice.
      LOL... projecting much?

      I don't force any white person to live with me or next to me.
      The same way mexicans don't force you to live next to them?

      If they want to carve out "Whiteistan" that's their business.
      You have being advocating for it to be carved on the land you are living on... you will get kick out of it... why you think they will let you stay?

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      • #78

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        Question about #2.... the one trafiquing the guns are part of the government.
        All of them? Some of them? There are no non-governmental gun trafficers?

        Also what's this got to do with the price of tea in china.

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        Isolationism have never improved any nation, all the times it have being practiced have ended up badly for the nation doing it...

        But hey, if you think North Korea is doing so great and we should look more like them... then... why no?

        You start closing borders to keep outers people out, then it ends up turning to prevent people to leave... true on every stance isolationism that have being implemented trough history.
        Isolationism refers to a policy of non-intervention in foreign affairs.

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        Well if it does not matter to you, then why I bother researching the topic? Why you even bring the topic up?

        You use the crime of illegals as an excuse to justify your... hate?... but when the numbers starts to look different, then you go for the classy... it does not matter... LOL
        I said that even IF they had zero crime, they still crossed the border illegally and shouldn't be here.

        I know they don't have zero crime, you know they don't have zero crime, Mexico as a society/culture has tons of crime and it's disingenuous for you to spout FBI statistics.

        You're a used car salesman trying to sell a lemon.

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        I don't even see how having illegals around stop the development of infrastructure... It have been days since you said anything that resemble a logical argument.
        If millions of people are here illegally, they are using infrastructure.

        Infrastructure needs to be funded.

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        The US soldiers made videos and sold them online as porno... There was an investigation by Colombian congress and they have some of those videos as evidence of the events... you keep denying that it ever happened, or that the parents sold the butt of their kids, or whatever excuse you want to make... by the way... even if the parents prostitute the kids.. is this a reason to claim that the soldiers are less criminals? that was your argument at some point?

        "The victim was a 12-year-old girl. “They abducted her, they drugged her, they took her to the air base near the town of Melgar and raped her, ,” the victim’s mother told reporters. Then they drove her into town and pushed her out of their car in front of a church."

        The congress of colombia have 3 videos of this events with the US soldiers and that 12 years old girl mentioned here... The soldiers sold this videos online...
        1. I don't know
        2. I don't care
        3. The job of soldiers is to kill people and break things
        4. If you don't want that to happen then
        a. Don't send them
        b. Don't request them

        "Hai gais, we sent people with machine guns and something bad happened."

        Well I am shocked. Shocked.

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        And what is wrong with globalism?

        You know, some 3k years ago we didn't even have countries, we have cities and each city was its own government... But then someone united some cities and made a nation out of it... a very globalist thing to do... if you ask me... somehow you seam to be OK with nations over the independent cities... but not OK with a world wide government...

        Would you explain to me why are you OK with the existence of countries?

        Why you are not advocating to dissolve nations and reestablish city-states?
        It's one thing to form a federation with the city next door with whom you have formed cultural and ethnic bonds.

        Quite another to import foreigners who hate your country, your religion and your way of life and then go "gee, I don't know what happened" when they start running you over with a bread truck.

        The blood of the innocents is on your hands.

        You killed them. You raped them. You stabbed them.

        Because "my religion commands me to hurrrr durrr foreigner buttsex."

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        Again???

        here a link from Israel government:

        https://knesset.gov.il/laws/special/eng/return.htm

        This is the actual wording of the law, please quote me the line that support your claim...

        As I said before, there is a at this moment a debate about changing this law and make it ortodox only, and this have triggered another debate about revoking this law entirely, and so no more citizenship through religion for nobody...

        The thing is I read in the jerusalem Post that this change in the law is in the works, and then I see you telling me that it have being in place since inception?

        https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Po...onverts-552540

        The thing is that 2 months ago at Shabbat service my Rabbi was talking about this... but then again you are here repeating the same stupid claim... like as if you know what you are talking about...

        This is the last time I correct you on this... I have gone beyond and above to give you the correct information, and you have being repeating the same stupid thing over and over again... I don't care anymore, I don't know if you are trolling me or if you have some learning disabilities...
        It is my understanding that halachic conversion is not considered valid for law of return unless Orthodox.

        Maybe the law doesn't say it explicitly, maybe it's just "intra-jew discrimination" and they find some technicality to deny you.

        If you say that's not the case then fine, I'll believe you.

        God knows why, since you lie your ass off about everything else.

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        That is not my fault...
        According to the web, "Reform" Jews are big on social justice.

        So as a reform jew yourself, then you support SJW that's literally destroying the west.

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        I think you need education...
        I think you need to back up the things you write.

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        And there you are again... when you was getting out of the mess, you back at it...

        What is a "large number"?

        We have being talking about 5 million in US... this is a population of over 300 millions... 5 millions is not a small number?
        5 million what

        Illegals? Mexicans? Americans? Per year? Per capita? What?

        5 million people is roughly the population of LA.

        5 million more people on the road.

        5 million more people in hospitals.

        5 million more people in prisons.

        5 million fewer available apartments.

        Keep in mind we're not only allowing people from Mexico, we're allowing people from all over the world, there's 178? countries.

        Even at 5000 people per year per country, that's a population the size of Cincinatti, year after year after year.

        You don't think Americans would rather their own kids and grandkids have that land and infrastructure?

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        I don't think so, I have never being of the patriotic kind... I was proving your morals, you talked about rapes I talked about rapes, you sing 2 different songs depending on identity politics... I already found out what I was looking for... this is, an understanding of your morals.
        You sing 2 different songs depending on identity politics too.

        You're against ethnostates, unless it's Israel, then you're for ethnostates.

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        What is the point of you still denying that you are a racist?
        When are you going to admit you hate white people and do everything you can to get them murdered and destroy their heritage?

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        The same way mexicans don't force you to live next to them?
        Mexicans who become naturalized in the US are called Americans.

        Americans live next to Americans.

        Mexicans live in Mexico.

        Did your head just explode?

        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
        You have being advocating for it to be carved on the land you are living on... you will get kick out of it... why you think they will let you stay?
        America isn't whiteistan.

        If there are land disputes, they can be resolved thru military means or negotiation or whatever.

        As a point of morality, I think every ethnic group has a right to self-determination.

        I think it's wrong to try to force race-mixing on people.

        Most "peoples" these days are not races, but identities. Cultures.

        American is not a race, American is a culture, an identity.

        I think you're obsessed with the subject of race, without really having the courage of your convictions.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by dubs View Post
          Isolationism refers to a policy of non-intervention in foreign affairs.
          Redefining the word now?

          I said that even IF they had zero crime, they still crossed the border illegally and shouldn't be here.

          I know they don't have zero crime, you know they don't have zero crime, Mexico as a society/culture has tons of crime and it's disingenuous for you to spout FBI statistics.

          You're a used car salesman trying to sell a lemon.
          YOur argument is that mexicans are more violent than other nationalities, I show you a stat that puts a question mark on your claim...

          Look at it this way... Kids in Mexico are not mass shooting their classmates because "bullying"... You are cherry picking your data, I am not. You are blind to violence or crime any american commits and at the same time you capitalize in any violence someone else do...

          Los for instance how you treat the gun trafficking thing.. you claim is that there is some few bad apples.. however you have not problems to claim that Mexicans are rapists...

          If millions of people are here illegally, they are using infrastructure.

          Infrastructure needs to be funded.
          They are also contributing to society... For instance if they use roads, then have to pay the car registrations and fees to use those roads... Your argument that they only take an use but never contribute is very ignorant and dishonest.

          1. I don't know
          2. I don't care
          3. The job of soldiers is to kill people and break things
          4. If you don't want that to happen then
          a. Don't send them
          b. Don't request them

          "Hai gais, we sent people with machine guns and something bad happened."

          Well I am shocked. Shocked.
          I am all for killing communists, I celebrate every dead communist on the world... the job of those US soldiers is to kill communists, not to rape children...

          You are a piece of shit for making excuses for child rape.

          It's one thing to form a federation with the city next door with whom you have formed cultural and ethnic bonds.
          This is why there was a war of northern aggression?

          Quite another to import foreigners who hate your country, your religion and your way of life and then go "gee, I don't know what happened" when they start running you over with a bread truck.
          Laredo have more in common with Tijuana than with Philadelphia.

          It is my understanding that halachic conversion is not considered valid for law of return unless Orthodox.

          Maybe the law doesn't say it explicitly, maybe it's just "intra-jew discrimination" and they find some technicality to deny you.

          If you say that's not the case then fine, I'll believe you.

          God knows why, since you lie your ass off about everything else.
          Nice imagination, now do your research.


          According to the web, "Reform" Jews are big on social justice.

          So as a reform jew yourself, then you support SJW that's literally destroying the west.
          I think there is a big difference between Social Justice and what is call a SJW...

          Maybe this is confusing to you because you probably have never suffer social injustice...

          But basically, if you like education for kids, job opportunities for adults and a dignified retirement for the elder... maybe you like the idea of social justice.

          JSW is a bunch if idiots virtual signaling each other that they are righteous people...

          The so called "American Dream" is nothing but a manifesto in social justice.

          You sing 2 different songs depending on identity politics too.

          You're against ethnostates, unless it's Israel, then you're for ethnostates.
          It is like you don't read anything I type...

          If this you say is true, how you explain few pages ago I said I support Orania.

          But here you are telling me that I don't support etnowhite, in the same debate I said I support a white only town...

          When are you going to admit you hate white people and do everything you can to get them murdered and destroy their heritage?
          LOL, I don't hate whites.

          America isn't whiteistan.
          I said this same thing pages ago, when I told you that America is not a white country... since then you have told me I hate whites and I am an hypocrite, even in this same message you say that again... yet, now you come to agree with me?

          American is not a race, American is a culture, an identity.

          I think you're obsessed with the subject of race, without really having the courage of your convictions.
          You are repeating to me what i said to you, and you are saying the opposite of what you said before...

          are you trying to flip our opinions on this argument???

          are you Bipolar?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
            Redefining the word now?
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolationism

            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
            YOur argument is that mexicans are more violent than other nationalities, I show you a stat that puts a question mark on your claim...

            Look at it this way... Kids in Mexico are not mass shooting their classmates because "bullying"... You are cherry picking your data, I am not. You are blind to violence or crime any american commits and at the same time you capitalize in any violence someone else do...

            Los for instance how you treat the gun trafficking thing.. you claim is that there is some few bad apples.. however you have not problems to claim that Mexicans are rapists...
            I find some ethnic groups to be nicer, more productive and better neighbors than others.

            Pour thru data all you want, there is a reason everyone is trying to escape Mexico, the Mexicans are trying to escape each other, the blacks are trying to escape each other, the muslims are trying to escape each other, everyone on the planet is trying to flee to Whiteistan where people don't chop your head off.

            America in general started off something like Whiteistan and gradually got diluted down to the shithole it is today where everyone is so crazy and stressed out that they're shooting each other over a parking space.

            Are white people perfect? No.

            Do I approve of every single aspect of "Western Society?" Fuck no.

            Would I rather live in a white neighborhood, japanese neighborhood, jewish neighborhood, persian neighborhood, than a Mexican neighborhood? Hell yeah.

            And the Mexicans would too.

            Everyone would rather live in the "non-darkie" neighborhood, are you retarded? Even MLK and Rosa Parks' grandchildren stay out of Compton.

            I mean why the fuck did you move out of Venezuela, because Venezuelans are such a kind and peace-loving people?

            You ran to Whiteistan.

            You ran away from the darkies and now you want to import them.

            Like I said, I actually like Mexicans in small doses.

            I find them honest, hard-working, a bit hot-blooded but that's ok.

            Diversity in small doses is nice.

            Diversity in big doses = Welcome to Haiti

            Spin it any way you like, you can call me a racist, you can claim yourself to be morally superior, you might even win the argument (mostly because I get tired of arguing with stoopids) but you'll still be running to Whitistan for the rest of your life, whether it be in America, Netherlands or Israel.

            Israel. Well the wall to keep the darkies (Palestinians) out should have been a giant cluebat.

            I guess even Jews don't want to live in the ghetto despite claiming themselves as the masters of diversity.

            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
            They are also contributing to society... For instance if they use roads, then have to pay the car registrations and fees to use those roads... Your argument that they only take an use but never contribute is very ignorant and dishonest.
            Yeah that's why California is bankrupt.

            Like I said, even if Mexicans were 200 IQ pacifists, people (any people) take up infrastructure.

            And infrastructure can only be built/expanded so fast.

            You can't just let in a million people and widen the 405 an extra lane.

            But the central point is why should we "make it work?"

            We already have something that works for us.

            Why should we let in anyone else unless it's a clear benefit to us.

            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
            I am all for killing communists, I celebrate every dead communist on the world... the job of those US soldiers is to kill communists, not to rape children...

            You are a piece of shit for making excuses for child rape.
            Well you're a piece of shit for wanting to kill people (communists) just because they have a different political opinion.

            Why would you request foreign soldiers to come to your country? Why would you agree to give them immunity?

            I'm guessing that rape is a tool that right and left-wing paramilitaries use against each other's populations in Colombia.

            And I'm guessing that these "advisers" got into the spirit of how the locals do things.

            I condemn that sort of behavior, but I also condemn trying people in the court of public opinion and villifying the US in a biased manner as you do.

            If a military investigation cleared those soldiers then I have a tendency to believe that over "Colmbian senators" or whatever fuckwitted sources you're reading.

            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
            This is why there was a war of northern aggression?
            Because sometimes one's identity as an American conflicts with one's identity as a Southerner.

            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
            Laredo have more in common with Tijuana than with Philadelphia.
            Yaaay diversity.

            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
            Nice imagination, now do your research.
            I have, maybe when you become a real jew you can do yours.

            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
            I think there is a big difference between Social Justice and what is call a SJW...
            Oh that's cute.

            Now he's claiming that Reform Judaism SJW doesn't really mean SJW.

            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
            It is like you don't read anything I type...
            More like I don't believe anything you type.

            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
            If this you say is true, how you explain few pages ago I said I support Orania.

            But here you are telling me that I don't support etnowhite, in the same debate I said I support a white only town...
            Now who's bi-polar.

            You support whiteistan, you don't support whiteistan, you only support whiteistan in israel, which is it.

            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
            I said this same thing pages ago, when I told you that America is not a white country... since then you have told me I hate whites and I am an hypocrite, even in this same message you say that again... yet, now you come to agree with me?

            You are repeating to me what i said to you, and you are saying the opposite of what you said before...

            are you trying to flip our opinions on this argument???

            are you Bipolar?
            Probably because your entire argument is dogmatic and focused on fitting me into the box in your mind.

            ie, "I like hanging out in Mexico but I don't want to bring it home with me."

            Option 1 : You love mexicans and want them everywhere around you
            Option 2 : You hate mexicans and want to gas them all

            I enjoy diversity in small doses, I like everyone in small doses.

            Like...if I was somewhere in the midwest where everyone's name was "Jones" and "Smith" I would find it kind of boring, unhip, uncool, in a "The Hills Have Eyes" sort of way.

            By your logic then, that means I hate white people and want to genocide them.

            Whereas I find myself most comfortable in "mostly white" places but with a decent mix.

            When it starts to turn %50+ darkie, that's a good time to move out before the place starts looking like Blackhawk Down.

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            • #81
              Dubs, simpleman. I just wanted to add a point of order on emigration. Most immigrants come for our freedoms...we have a party who would exploit them in order to remove those very freedoms which brought them here in the first place. Exploit them as a voting block...particularly if they come illegally.

              The balance is to have them understand our founding principles without being so desperate that they think about the short term gains which one party presents at the cost of turning us into the third world hell hole they came from. It's easy to be pro this or that when your goal is to destroy or simply gain power. If your goal is to lift all boats you'd be more cautious.

              The debate is not about race/the other distractions, it is about preserving those things which make others want to come to our country in the first place.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by dubs View Post

                I find some ethnic groups to be nicer, more productive and better neighbors than others.

                Pour thru data all you want, there is a reason everyone is trying to escape Mexico, the Mexicans are trying to escape each other, the blacks are trying to escape each other, the muslims are trying to escape each other, everyone on the planet is trying to flee to Whiteistan where people don't chop your head off.
                I marked on bold all the parts I disagree with...

                You tell me I am the one doing identity politics... when in reality I am an individualist... you are the one who think in terms of tribes and ethnics and al that stuff... you reverting this "accusation" to me makes no sense...

                So to address each part I marked in bold, here in order of appearance;

                - Some people is nicer. it will always come down to individuals...
                - no everyone is trying to escape Mexico.
                - No all the mexicans are trying to escape each other.
                - No all the blacks are trying to escape each other.
                - No all the muslims are trying to escape each other.
                - no everyone is trying to make it to "whieistan".


                America in general started off something like Whiteistan and gradually got diluted down to the shithole it is today where everyone is so crazy and stressed out that they're shooting each other over a parking space.
                in my time in this country 3 people have pulled guns on me, all of them elder, whites, of rural appearance... one of them was because he considered I was driving too slow for his like.

                Would I rather live in a white neighborhood, japanese neighborhood, jewish neighborhood, persian neighborhood, than a Mexican neighborhood? Hell yeah.

                And the Mexicans would too.
                Why? because they are no proud of their music and clothes? Why they create mexican neighborhoods in the first place?

                I mean why the fuck did you move out of Venezuela, because Venezuelans are such a kind and peace-loving people?
                Never being in Venezuela...

                You ran to Whiteistan.
                I was In "whitestan" You should really don't talk about the racial makeup of south america... to give you a hint... this is what a politician recently said about a black state:

                “the money you will invest in Choco is like adding perfume to a turd,”
                https://colombiareports.com/colombia...hoco-comments/

                In the other hand... if central government tax them but don't invest... kinda explains why the place looks so bad...

                You ran away from the darkies and now you want to import them.
                You don't know the first thing about my life... don't even try.


                Diversity in small doses is nice.

                Diversity in big doses = Welcome to Haiti
                Because Haiti is so diverse...

                Spin it any way you like, you can call me a racist
                Racist.

                you can claim yourself to be morally superior
                When I have claim this? I am a moral relativist... If I have talked any morals here is because you tried to lecture me on morals... so I tried your moral values and it turns out you are a degenerate. But you feel righteous enough to go around preaching morals...

                Israel. Well the wall to keep the darkies (Palestinians) out should have been a giant cluebat.
                Jews are not white accordingly to mein fuhrer. No humans, even.

                Yeah that's why California is bankrupt.
                Because mexicans used the infrastructure??? That is your understanding of it??? Too many mexicans in Silicon Valley?

                And infrastructure can only be built/expanded so fast.

                You can't just let in a million people and widen the 405 an extra lane.

                But the central point is why should we "make it work?"

                We already have something that works for us.

                Why should we let in anyone else unless it's a clear benefit to us.
                I can give you several reasons, going for the practical one...

                Because they manage to interwoven themself into the economy... so even if they did not assimilated culturally, they did assimilated economically, and the fast, unplanned and brutal severage of this workforce will hurt the economic sectors that are depending on it.

                Here a link that show stats on the kind of jobs illegals take:

                https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal...workers-taxes/

                Notice that 15% are in the construction of the infrastructure you like to talk so much about.

                Kicking out all this people is going to hurt all this sectors of the economy, because there is not really a workforce trained, and ready to replace all this workers...

                You see? You are talking about the problems it creates to bring millions in... it is the same problems to push millions out.

                Well you're a piece of shit for wanting to kill people (communists) just because they have a different political opinion.
                Then I am a piece of shit, and proud of it.

                Why would you request foreign soldiers to come to your country? Why would you agree to give them immunity?
                I didn't request anybody...

                I'm guessing that rape is a tool that right and left-wing paramilitaries use against each other's populations in Colombia.

                And I'm guessing that these "advisers" got into the spirit of how the locals do things.
                Wearing the US flag... representing you.

                I condemn that sort of behavior
                SInce when? this is the first time you actually do...

                Because sometimes one's identity as an American conflicts with one's identity as a Southerner.
                They wanted to separate from the union and the northern crushed them with armies...

                What would be your opinion if the EU now says that England can't separate and send a bunch of troops there to force them to stay on the EU???

                I have, maybe when you become a real jew you can do yours.
                If I tell you that if I go to worship at an Orthodox synagogue and they welcome me there... what would you make of that? You keep claiming that Reforms are not real... whatever... Literally nobody cares what is your opinion on this.

                Oh that's cute.

                Now he's claiming that Reform Judaism SJW doesn't really mean SJW.
                "In Western as well as in older Asian cultures, the concept of social justice has often referred to the process of ensuring that individuals fulfill their societal roles and receive what was their due from society."
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice

                "The American Dream is attainable, and everyone can succeed with hard work and determination."
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Dream

                Find me the difference between those 2.

                Now who's bi-polar.

                You support whiteistan, you don't support whiteistan, you only support whiteistan in israel, which is it.
                Uhhh... dude... Orania is not in Israel... It is in South Africa...

                Probably because your entire argument is dogmatic and focused on fitting me into the box in your mind.

                ie, "I like hanging out in Mexico but I don't want to bring it home with me."

                Option 1 : You love mexicans and want them everywhere around you
                Option 2 : You hate mexicans and want to gas them all

                I enjoy diversity in small doses, I like everyone in small doses.

                Like...if I was somewhere in the midwest where everyone's name was "Jones" and "Smith" I would find it kind of boring, unhip, uncool, in a "The Hills Have Eyes" sort of way.

                By your logic then, that means I hate white people and want to genocide them.

                Whereas I find myself most comfortable in "mostly white" places but with a decent mix.

                When it starts to turn %50+ darkie, that's a good time to move out before the place starts looking like Blackhawk Down.
                This is where your argument sucks... because you keep telling me about tribes and stuff...

                You cherry pick your examples, you talk about Haiti... because that serves your narrative... but you don't talk about Dominica because that proves that your point is faulty.

                I mean 87% blacks, and it does not look like a shithole to me:






                But sure... a parking lot of trailers full of rednecks must be better because... they are white... Accordingly to you...

                And before you ask me... because I am sure you are going to ask me... why I don't go to Dominica if it is so great...

                Well... you see... there is some countries that have naturalization through money.. this is... you have to pay your way in... Let me give you the numbers:

                "What is the Total Cost of Citizenship for an Individual?
                The minimum price for a single applicant to buy citizenship in Dominica, including all fees, is broken down below.

                Government donation option: USD $111,325
                USD $100,000 - monetary contribution to Government Fund
                USD $7,500 - due diligence fee
                USD $3,000 - processing fee
                USD $750 - naturalization fee
                USD $60 - passport fee
                USD $15 - stamp fee"
                http://www.dominicacitizenshipbyinvestment.com/


                Take your opportunity now (sure you can afford it)... the monetary contribution will go up to $175000 next year... it was going to happen on 2016 but the hurricane hit them so they hold the low price to recuperate from it...

                Would you like me to show you the crime stats???

                Also no mass immigration of darkies leaving the island to go to "whiteland"... though gotta admit it, place used to look nicer before the hurricane... but they will rebuild...

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Grumpy Old Man View Post
                  Dubs, simpleman. I just wanted to add a point of order on emigration. Most immigrants come for our freedoms...we have a party who would exploit them in order to remove those very freedoms which brought them here in the first place. Exploit them as a voting block...particularly if they come illegally.

                  The balance is to have them understand our founding principles without being so desperate that they think about the short term gains which one party presents at the cost of turning us into the third world hell hole they came from. It's easy to be pro this or that when your goal is to destroy or simply gain power. If your goal is to lift all boats you'd be more cautious.

                  The debate is not about race/the other distractions, it is about preserving those things which make others want to come to our country in the first place.
                  I like that you are such an idealist.

                  Mexicans are not coming to US for the freedom, they are coming for the money. List me the freedoms that you can find in US but not in Mexico

                  Central Americans are coming for the safety.

                  Haitians... I think they are willing to go anywhere where there is running water.

                  I think what really differentiate US from other countries is the so call "opportunity"... but of course now there is a lot less opportunity than what there used to be...

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    You tell me I am the one doing identity politics... when in reality I am an individualist... you are the one who think in terms of tribes and ethnics and al that stuff...
                    You're not an individualist.

                    You're a jewish tribalist enforcing God's law of diversity on people who don't want it.

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    - Some people is nicer. it will always come down to individuals...
                    If that was the case then every country would be the same.

                    If "everybody is an individual" then everybody wouldn't be tripping all over each other to escape their third world shitholes to live next to whitey.

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    in my time in this country 3 people have pulled guns on me, all of them elder, whites, of rural appearance... one of them was because he considered I was driving too slow for his like.
                    Slow drivers are the worst. jk

                    Seriously tho, have you considered that there's something about your aura that's off-putting.

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    Why? because they are no proud of their music and clothes? Why they create mexican neighborhoods in the first place?
                    Why did they leave Mexico in the first place.

                    Because Mexico sucks and whiteyville is much nicer.

                    You've mentioned many times the social stratifications prevalent in latin society, with the lighter-skinned latinos considering themselves better than the darker latinos.

                    I'm familiar with this, it's sort of how Nords look down their noses at Mediterraneans, Mediterraneans look down their noses at North Africans, North Africans look down their noses at sub-saharan Africans and on and on it goes.

                    TL;DR - Everyone on the planet is trying to escape the hood and get 2 inches closer to the land of Heineken. Including You.

                    Now

                    You can either deny this, lie, obfuscate, the way you've been doing all thread and be like "hurr durr God commands me to love diversity."

                    Or you can just admit that you (and everybody else) would rather live in whiteyville because it's nicer and you're less likely to be pounded into the cement by an angry 300 pound urban gentleman who wants your iPhone.

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    Never being in Venezuela...
                    Remind me again which shithole you're from.

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    I was In "whitestan"
                    Then maybe you should actually live your convictions and move to the hood, instead of just talking about how wonderful diversity is.

                    By the way, I think I finally have you pegged.

                    You're a culturally latino white who's upset that the anglo whites won't accept you as one of their own.

                    And you manifest this by making Mexican immigration your pet cause.

                    All of it petty and self-serving while masquerading as some kind of profound belief in Social Justice with Biblical quotes and long speeches.

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    In the other hand... if central government tax them but don't invest... kinda explains why the place looks so bad...
                    Good luck getting tax money out of the black community.

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    Because Haiti is so diverse...
                    What are you saying, Wakanda needs whitey?

                    But I thought they built the pyramids and discovered math.

                    "We was kings!"

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    When I have claim this? I am a moral relativist...
                    A moral relativist crusading for halachic values.

                    How edgy.

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    Jews are not white accordingly to mein fuhrer. No humans, even.
                    In page 5 you were white and I wasn't.

                    Now you're invoking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    Because mexicans used the infrastructure??? That is your understanding of it??? Too many mexicans in Silicon Valley?
                    When you import Mexico you become Mexico.

                    What part of this is complicated for you?

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    I can give you several reasons, going for the practical one...

                    Because they manage to interwoven themself into the economy... so even if they did not assimilated culturally, they did assimilated economically, and the fast, unplanned and brutal severage of this workforce will hurt the economic sectors that are depending on it.

                    Here a link that show stats on the kind of jobs illegals take:

                    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal...workers-taxes/

                    Notice that 15% are in the construction of the infrastructure you like to talk so much about.

                    Kicking out all this people is going to hurt all this sectors of the economy, because there is not really a workforce trained, and ready to replace all this workers...

                    You see? You are talking about the problems it creates to bring millions in... it is the same problems to push millions out.
                    Businesses hire illegals to exploit them.

                    They are exploitable /because/ they are illegal.

                    If they had a green card, they can say, "No I want $25/hr"

                    And now suddenly they are no longer useful to the economy

                    The moment you document them and tax them, is the moment they can no longer do backbreaking work for pennies.

                    Politicians also exploit them for votes.

                    How do you get a nutjob lefty with 72 genders into office?

                    By being pro-immigrant, now suddenly they have a few million votes by exploiting the tribal affinity of latinos.

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    Wearing the US flag... representing you.
                    Representing YOU.

                    You're the crusader.

                    I'm the guy that says, "build the wall and stop horsing around in south america."

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    SInce when? this is the first time you actually do...
                    I have to explicitly say I am anti-rape otherwise I am pro-rape?

                    One of us is not normal.

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    They wanted to separate from the union and the northern crushed them with armies...

                    What would be your opinion if the EU now says that England can't separate and send a bunch of troops there to force them to stay on the EU???
                    You tell me.

                    You're the globalist.

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    If I tell you that if I go to worship at an Orthodox synagogue and they welcome me there... what would you make of that? You keep claiming that Reforms are not real... whatever... Literally nobody cares what is your opinion on this.
                    Nice freudian slip there, I didn't say Reforms aren't real.

                    You said it because that's what's on your mind.

                    I don't want to get too heavy into intra-Jewish politics but basically, all identities have stratifications and not every jew considers every other jew to be a "real jew."

                    Some people don't consider anyone without a jewish matrilineal line to be a real jew.

                    Some white guys convert to judaism and everyone thinks, "That's so cute, where did you find this goy."

                    Like I said, I'm some kind of levantine mutt so I probably carry the DNA.

                    I don't care to formalize it or spend any time on it but basically, "It takes one to know one."

                    You smell more like some white guy than a real jew to me.

                    But what do I know.

                    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                    "In Western as well as in older Asian cultures, the concept of social justice has often referred to the process of ensuring that individuals fulfill their societal roles and receive what was their due from society."
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice

                    "The American Dream is attainable, and everyone can succeed with hard work and determination."
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Dream

                    Find me the difference between those 2.

                    Uhhh... dude... Orania is not in Israel... It is in South Africa...

                    This is where your argument sucks... because you keep telling me about tribes and stuff...

                    You cherry pick your examples, you talk about Haiti... because that serves your narrative... but you don't talk about Dominica because that proves that your point is faulty.

                    I mean 87% blacks, and it does not look like a shithole to me:

                    But sure... a parking lot of trailers full of rednecks must be better because... they are white... Accordingly to you...

                    And before you ask me... because I am sure you are going to ask me... why I don't go to Dominica if it is so great...

                    Well... you see... there is some countries that have naturalization through money.. this is... you have to pay your way in... Let me give you the numbers:

                    Take your opportunity now (sure you can afford it)... the monetary contribution will go up to $175000 next year... it was going to happen on 2016 but the hurricane hit them so they hold the low price to recuperate from it...

                    Would you like me to show you the crime stats???

                    Also no mass immigration of darkies leaving the island to go to "whiteland"... though gotta admit it, place used to look nicer before the hurricane... but they will rebuild...
                    Running short on time so I'll make this quick.

                    SJW : If you do what you're supposed to, you'll get your share of the loot.

                    American Dream : You're free to do whatever you want, but everyone has the /opportunity/ to better themselves and rise up in the world.

                    The difference between those two things is subtle but not really, the keyword is "opportunity."

                    In other words, you have the opportunity to make it big, but we can't guarantee it.

                    Some people work their ass off at McDonalds, they'll never make it big, because they don't have the brains to leverage hard work into dollars and cents.

                    SJW tries to promise the McDonalds guy a white picket fence.

                    But it can't deliver because there's not enough to go around.

                    SJW also tries to tax those who are better off, but then tax-avoidance becomes a national sport and everyone offshores their money.

                    No one wants to share their cake, including the hardcore SJW guy.

                    The SJW wants to spend other people's money, not his own, he still wants to live uptown in trendy Harlem with a bunch of bodyguards while spouting off about the evil of guns in society.

                    It's like Al Gore going to the climate change conference in a 40 car motorcade, telling people they should ride a bike to work.

                    ~~~~

                    The Dominican Republic is like the rest of Latin America.

                    Stratified into ruling class "almost whites" surrounded by slums.

                    Tourist resorts don't paint an accurate picture of the country.

                    Actually I'm not sure if anyone really lives in the DR who isn't waiting for their warrant to expire from New York.

                    Like maybe they go home to visit their abuela.

                    But nobody really stays there and does well.

                    All of them either live in the US part-time, or get money wired from relatives in the US.

                    There's really no economy in the DR to speak of.

                    Other than whores, drugs and tourists, it's mostly agricultural.

                    Reminds me of Mexico.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by dubs View Post

                      You're not an individualist.

                      You're a jewish tribalist enforcing God's law of diversity on people who don't want it.
                      That said... yes, I am an individualist...

                      And I am not trying to enforce any god's law on anyone...

                      If that was the case then every country would be the same.

                      If "everybody is an individual" then everybody wouldn't be tripping all over each other to escape their third world shitholes to live next to whitey.
                      There is other factors at play.

                      Why did they leave Mexico in the first place.
                      Most of illegal immigrants are looking for some money, they plan to go back to their place after the collect the cash they need. They don't really have plans to stay.

                      Because Mexico sucks and whiteyville is much nicer.
                      One more time:

                      There are parts of mexico that look alot more white than some parts of US... so this is not the issue... it is just your twested mind.

                      You've mentioned many times the social stratifications prevalent in latin society, with the lighter-skinned latinos considering themselves better than the darker latinos.
                      This is correct, i have seeing this at place.. but then again this is not everybody...

                      You can either deny this, lie, obfuscate, the way you've been doing all thread and be like "hurr durr God commands me to love diversity."

                      Or you can just admit that you (and everybody else) would rather live in whiteyville because it's nicer and you're less likely to be pounded into the cement by an angry 300 pound urban gentleman who wants your iPhone.
                      I know the reasons why I migrate, and the color of the skin was not it.

                      Remind me again which shithole you're from.
                      LOL

                      Next time I will try to born in a city of your approval...

                      Then maybe you should actually live your convictions and move to the hood, instead of just talking about how wonderful diversity is.
                      I am living at the hood right now... can't beat cheap rent. I don't have kids or any other accessory that makes me think it is worth it to live in a different area.

                      By the way, I think I finally have you pegged.

                      You're a culturally latino white who's upset that the anglo whites won't accept you as one of their own.
                      I am Anglo-Saxon...

                      And you manifest this by making Mexican immigration your pet cause.

                      All of it petty and self-serving while masquerading as some kind of profound belief in Social Justice with Biblical quotes and long speeches.
                      You taking my quotes out of context... I was showing the torah verses that legitimize converts.

                      Good luck getting tax money out of the black community.
                      Choco is a very rich region, on natural resources, there is gold, oil, smerals and much more... here an article about the gold:

                      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...choco-colombia

                      Of course none of this wealth stay with the people that lives there.

                      What are you saying, Wakanda needs whitey?
                      You told me that diversity is not good and quoted Haiti as an example.. I was pointing out that Haiti is not an example on diversity...

                      But I thought they built the pyramids and discovered math.
                      Pyramids are overrated, huge masses of building materials, for rooms that add up to an area less than my apartment... the people that builded them was white, practiced humans sacrifices and, cannibalism.

                      In page 5 you were white and I wasn't.

                      Now you're invoking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
                      I was referring to the nazis... they don't' consider white anyone who is a jew.. even if they are white.. I don't expect this to make sense... they were crazy that way.

                      When you import Mexico you become Mexico.

                      What part of this is complicated for you?
                      The part when you think you are superior to others.

                      Businesses hire illegals to exploit them.
                      Business hire them to work... if they don't want the job nobody is forcing them.. this is not exploitation.

                      They are exploitable /because/ they are illegal.
                      This makes no sense... you are talking doodoo again.

                      If they had a green card, they can say, "No I want $25/hr"
                      LOL... they probably will try to get the same they are making, but working less hard...

                      And now suddenly they are no longer useful to the economy
                      Useful in a different capacity... however in this new capacity they will to compete with natives... this will be jobs that Americans really want.

                      The moment you document them and tax them, is the moment they can no longer do backbreaking work for pennies.
                      This is correct... I am not advocating for legalizing the illegals... I am actually advocating for the government to stop telling business how much they have to play employees. Whatever law is there for minimum wages need to go... then natives will not be over expensive by default, when competing with free agents... and here I say it this way, because a freelancer, an independent contractor, and an illegal immigrant can work for under the minimum wages... I should know, I am a freelancer.

                      Politicians also exploit them for votes.
                      Illegals don't vote.

                      How do you get a nutjob lefty with 72 genders into office?
                      uh... Trump what???

                      By being pro-immigrant, now suddenly they have a few million votes by exploiting the tribal affinity of latinos.
                      I though you said that the mexicans you know all vote for harder immigration policies...

                      Representing YOU.

                      You're the crusader.

                      I'm the guy that says, "build the wall and stop horsing around in south america."
                      They represent me, because we are under the same flag... whatever they do, they are doing it on my name... The options here would be for me to find me a different flag.. or for other people that is under the same flag and actually can do something... to do something... but they are no going to do it... so that is that... another ugly page in a long history of messy relationships...

                      Then again, as I said, I am not of the patriotic kind... so no really a big deal for me... it is just how stuff is. I am glad I am not a little girl living next to an US military base.

                      I have to explicitly say I am anti-rape otherwise I am pro-rape?
                      You have made a lot of excuses to justify this rapes.. you said the parents prostitute the kids... for example... as if this made the rape more acceptable?

                      You actual first answer to this, if i remember well, is that you will have your opinion depending in if they are or not in train with Trump... so when a soldier rapes a child, We are supposed to ask the soldier their opinion on Trump, then ask the child... and depending on the answers you will make up your mind on what to think about the situation... I agree one of us is not normal.

                      You tell me.

                      You're the globalist.
                      So... no answer?

                      My point here is simple... you are opposing the idea of a global government, but you are supporting the idea of a federal government... then again all this is arbitrary, you don't really have any rational reason for this... it is just the way it came out of your butt...

                      So to answer your question.

                      England have done something very stupid... at this point they are not just trying to separate from the European Union... they are trying to separate from Europe itself.. and the hard Brexit will hit in the middle of March. My prediction is that their economy will collapse... it will cause a lot of problem for british companies, many of this companies will shut down, they will lost whatever remaining of influence and power they still holding, on a global scale.. and because their bureaucracy is so stupid they also are disarmed at this moment... They will not have a proper aircraft for another 10 more years...

                      My expectation is that we will see a catastrophic military lost too... I will bet that is the loosing of the Malvinas. So after that, the world will know that the Great Britain is not that great anymore. Then they probably will try to humble their way back into the EU...

                      Or maybe it works fine for them, they kick out the 0.5 million darkies quota that the EU imposed on them, and we see a renaissance of the old empire... LOL.

                      But I honestly doubt it... THey where expecting to break form the EU and align with US.. but Trump is not goign to help UK... because... America first... recently Trump visited the UK to strike a deal with UK before brexit hits... Trump walked out with not deal claiming that May is stupid, and also claiming that he is not interested in any more negotiations, because he felt they wasted his time... That was last hope for UK economy to navigate the aftermaths of brexit... now ... there is not plan.

                      Watch this video... pure comedy:

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0WCg42MWtw&t=309s

                      Nice freudian slip there, I didn't say Reforms aren't real.
                      For at least 2 pages you have being telling me this...

                      Some people don't consider anyone without a jewish matrilineal line to be a real jew.
                      I have the matrilineal thing... my ancestors were crypto jews that leave Spain because the persecutions, and seek a better future on south america. (so they leave whiteland for darkiland seeking a better life... how that clicks in your mind?)

                      "During the 16th and 17th centuries, some conversos migrated to the Americas, often the Castilian territories of the Viceroyalties of New Spain (North and Central America) and Peru (South America and Colombia). Legal emigration to the New World was strictly controlled and required proof of three generations of Christian ascendance. Nevertheless, many Conversos managed to evade these restrictions and managed to obtain encomiendas in the New World."
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrano

                      My maternal last name is so jewish that it actually is listed on the inquisition list of jewish last names... it is so jewish that it was actually created to names jews of certain neighborhood.

                      No everybody in my family practice... I am actually one of the few that do... and I decided to do it exactly because it was in my family...

                      SJW : If you do what you're supposed to, you'll get your share of the loot.
                      You placed a W on Social Justice...

                      SJW goes for government entitlement programs... Social Justice maybe advocate for some, but it is not the main solution to social problems.

                      Some people work their ass off at McDonalds, they'll never make it big, because they don't have the brains to leverage hard work into dollars and cents.
                      This is the thing...

                      There is a saying in South America that no mother of any president have ever wash clothes for money...

                      In, other words if you are born into poverty, you will stay in poverty... social improvement is not really possible... Even a guy that manage to hoard a lot of money, like Escobar, was never accepted in the high class... at difference of other drug lords like the Ochoa brothers, who where high class, committed crimes, served 5 years of sentence and back to the social club...

                      In US it is possible to have a guy flipping burgers in a MCDonalds at the age of 16, and be the president at the age of 60...

                      SJW also tries to tax those who are better off, but then tax-avoidance becomes a national sport and everyone offshores their money.
                      Dominica is a nice place for it... you should really check it out.. lol.

                      The SJW wants to spend other people's money, not his own
                      Most of the SJW have not money... they carry around a worthless degree in gender equality, and 100k+ student loan...

                      he still wants to live uptown in trendy Harlem with a bunch of bodyguards while spouting off about the evil of guns in society.
                      this are the Yuppies and their gentrification efforts...

                      The Dominican Republic is like the rest of Latin America.
                      Oh my.... ahahahahahahaha

                      This is going to be gold... you can't even tell the difference between Dominican Republic and Dominica...

                      https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-diff...nican-Republic

                      Try to remember this..

                      They don't even speak the same language... Dominican Republic was founded by Spaniards, Dominica was founded by British they speak english and are members of the Commonwealth...

                      Stratified into ruling class "almost whites" surrounded by slums.
                      Dominica does not really have "slums"... I mean, the whole population of the country is like 70k people... and many of them don't even live in the island, the just use it for banking and stuff... Saw the pictures with all the Yachts? Those are not tourists, those are business people.

                      Tourist resorts don't paint an accurate picture of the country.
                      I know right... it looks so nice... you'd think it is a top class resort... LOL

                      I'm crying here out of laughter.

                      Actually I'm not sure if anyone really lives in the DR who isn't waiting for their warrant to expire from New York.
                      People from Dominica comes to US for 2 main reasons: education and tourism.

                      Like maybe they go home to visit their abuela.
                      The official language in Dominica is English...

                      But nobody really stays there and does well.
                      Common... something must have sounded off to you... like... I just told you that the Dominica citizenship cost $200k dollars, and nothing rings in your mind?

                      You thought I was talking about Dominican Republic, and didn't wonder why someone would pay $200k to be a citizen???

                      All of them either live in the US part-time, or get money wired from relatives in the US.
                      Well... there is a lot of money wiring in Dominica... you got that right.

                      There's really no economy in the DR to speak of.
                      This is goign to be the kickers... the main economic activity of Dominica is... bananas...

                      Other than whores, drugs and tourists, it's mostly agricultural.
                      That is wrong even for Dominican Republic...

                      Think about this... they share the same island with Haiti... so if an hurricane hits one, it hits both.. so.. why RP manage to do just fine after an hurricane while Haiti still struggling after the same?

                      "The Dominican Republic is the largest economy[25] (according to the U.S. State Department and the World Bank)[106][120] in the Caribbean and Central American region. It is an upper middle-income developing country"
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domini...public#Economy

                      You can scroll down a bit in that link and see a picture of the place... and then remember they are next to Haiti... I'm sure you have seeing pictures of Haiti.

                      Reminds me of Mexico.
                      Have you ever been in Mexico? I'm sure you imagine it is a a bunch of lazies riding donkeys, singing silly songs and rushing chickens out of their ranches... Hay caramba, Manolo... mi Tequila... LOL...

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by simpleman View Post

                        I like that you are such an idealist.

                        Mexicans are not coming to US for the freedom, they are coming for the money. List me the freedoms that you can find in US but not in Mexico

                        Central Americans are coming for the safety.

                        Haitians... I think they are willing to go anywhere where there is running water.

                        I think what really differentiate US from other countries is the so call "opportunity"... but of course now there is a lot less opportunity than what there used to be...
                        There you go, obfuscating: Mexico=Corruption, Central American=Failed socialist experiments +, Haiti=corruption +. All= a lack of respect for the individual, property rights and protections of Liberty.

                        Don't come at me with this "you're and idealist" bull shit. I've travelled the world many times over including most of these countries, and it seems to me you are stuck in your narrow lane. How about you simply respond respectfully, form your point of view without the insidious attempts at character work.

                        I know this game well!
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                          There is other factors at play.
                          I don't care.

                          You're an idealist using tweezers to make sure the cake is genetically fair.

                          I don't care about genetics, sociology, "why is one society better than another."

                          I'm more pragmatic about saying, "That society is shit, we shouldn't import people from there, we'd be importing their problems."

                          You're saying, "bu bu their problems aren't genetics."

                          Fix Mexico first, then we can import them.

                          I like to think of myself as an individualist also.

                          The way I think about a country is like some kind of professional association, maybe even a mafia.

                          I'm in it for the wet pussy and cold beer.

                          Not to take in beaten-up starving people from another country and save their life.

                          I know it would benefit them.

                          It just doesn't benefit us.

                          Especially when they don't even bother to come in the right way, with the proper level of respect and gratitude.

                          Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                          This is correct... I am not advocating for legalizing the illegals... I am actually advocating for the government to stop telling business how much they have to play employees. Whatever law is there for minimum wages need to go... then natives will not be over expensive by default, when competing with free agents... and here I say it this way, because a freelancer, an independent contractor, and an illegal immigrant can work for under the minimum wages... I should know, I am a freelancer.
                          Eh it keeps the rabble happy.

                          Of course it results in offshoring of industry and makes the entire workforce uncompetative globally.

                          But that's not my problem, I don't work at McDonalds, I don't eat at McDonalds.

                          If the stoopids want minimum wage, they can have minimum wage, it's no skin off my nose.

                          This is how business people think :

                          Step 1. You make your stupid laws. Let's say minimum wage is X.
                          Step 2. I figure out how to comply with your stupid laws and still make a buck, for example by pricing my Big Mac at Y.
                          Step 3. If they raise the minimum wage, I raise the price of Big Macs.
                          Step 4. If they raise the tax, I raise the price of Big Macs.
                          Step 5. If they lower the tax, I keep the price the same because people are already used to it.

                          Rinse Repeat

                          In the end, it's all about solving for X, or "what is my price point after having to comply with every stupid law, regulation, licensing, etc etc."

                          In this manner a company, store or business is just a money printing press that needs to be calibrated occaisionally to the prevailing policies of the nation.

                          In fact having alot of stoopids in your society can be good for business.

                          Stoopids = Consumers

                          But if there are alot of stoopids then you have to deal with alot of bullshit, like black guys who go into Starbucks and don't buy anything and then they riot when you kick em out. Or women who go to work with their tits on display and claim you were staring at them.

                          It's all just meaningless stupidity.

                          Sometimes it's good to take a hiatus from the "developed world" and go start a business in a less developed country where people are still normal and you can kick people out of your store who don't buy anything and you can stare at women's tits and they like it.

                          Globalism threatens that.

                          It means you can't escape London and go open a coffee shop in Morocco or something.

                          Because it's all globalized, there's SJW bullshit everywhere.

                          Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                          Illegals don't vote.
                          This is 2018, even dead people vote.

                          Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                          You have made a lot of excuses to justify this rapes
                          Your anti-American agenda is clear as you claim crimes that were investigated and cleared by credible parties.

                          If the US Army says it didn't happen then it didn't happen.

                          This is the last we will speak of this.

                          Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                          My point here is simple... you are opposing the idea of a global government, but you are supporting the idea of a federal government... then again all this is arbitrary, you don't really have any rational reason for this... it is just the way it came out of your butt...
                          Govt is a necessary evil.

                          It should be as small and local as possible.

                          Think about this.

                          Let's say we have a large global govt, it becomes like an 800 pound gorilla. Nobody can beat it or escape it.

                          And then Trump takes office.

                          Or worse. Hillary. Or Putin.

                          Send a shiver down your spine yet?

                          Countries need to be small for the same reason that ships have watertight doors between compartments.

                          If one compartment floods, it doesn't take down the whole ship.

                          Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                          England have done something very stupid
                          Brexit doesn't mean there's no trade.

                          Everything is negotiable.

                          Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                          I have the matrilineal thing... my ancestors were crypto jews that leave Spain because the persecutions, and seek a better future on south america. (so they leave whiteland for darkiland seeking a better life... how that clicks in your mind?)

                          "During the 16th and 17th centuries, some conversos migrated to the Americas, often the Castilian territories of the Viceroyalties of New Spain (North and Central America) and Peru (South America and Colombia). Legal emigration to the New World was strictly controlled and required proof of three generations of Christian ascendance. Nevertheless, many Conversos managed to evade these restrictions and managed to obtain encomiendas in the New World."
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrano

                          My maternal last name is so jewish that it actually is listed on the inquisition list of jewish last names... it is so jewish that it was actually created to names jews of certain neighborhood.

                          No everybody in my family practice... I am actually one of the few that do... and I decided to do it exactly because it was in my family...
                          Religion, meh.

                          Idealism, meh.

                          Politics, meh.

                          Just be a normal, decent person. Don't cheat no one. Don't hurt no one. Try to be fair but don't worry too much about it.

                          It all shakes out in the end.

                          Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                          Have you ever been in Mexico? I'm sure you imagine it is a a bunch of lazies riding donkeys, singing silly songs and rushing chickens out of their ranches
                          My first real girlfriend was Mexican.

                          I lived with her family in Calexico.

                          Ain't nothing wrong with riding donkies and singing silly songs, bring tequila and you have a party.

                          Personal is personal.

                          Business is business.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Grumpy Old Man View Post

                            There you go, obfuscating: Mexico=Corruption, Central American=Failed socialist experiments +, Haiti=corruption +. All= a lack of respect for the individual, property rights and protections of Liberty.

                            Don't come at me with this "you're and idealist" bull shit. I've travelled the world many times over including most of these countries, and it seems to me you are stuck in your narrow lane. How about you simply respond respectfully, form your point of view without the insidious attempts at character work.

                            I know this game well!
                            If I said you are an idealist is because you imagine some idealistic motivations for why people migrate to US.

                            I honestly think I am right on this, there is not really more freedoms in US than Mexico... but there is more money.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by dubs View Post

                              I don't care.

                              You're an idealist using tweezers to make sure the cake is genetically fair.

                              I don't care about genetics, sociology, "why is one society better than another."
                              After about 5 pages of you telling me how and why whites are better than "darkies"... now you say you don't care about genetics... LOL

                              I'm more pragmatic about saying, "That society is shit, we shouldn't import people from there, we'd be importing their problems."

                              You're saying, "bu bu their problems aren't genetics."
                              I am debating your claim that their problems are genetic...

                              Fix Mexico first, then we can import them.
                              Mexico have their problems... but I don't think it is as broken as you think it is.

                              I like to think of myself as an individualist also.
                              It doesn't show up in anything you say... YOu have being telling me about tribes... again... for pages...

                              The way I think about a country is like some kind of professional association, maybe even a mafia.

                              I'm in it for the wet pussy and cold beer.

                              Not to take in beaten-up starving people from another country and save their life.

                              I know it would benefit them.

                              It just doesn't benefit us.
                              I used to be a social darwinist too... when I was about 13 years old...

                              You see... when you are young and strong is easy to say... let the weak die.

                              But eventually you will realize that you don't know what turns the life may make... and if you are up today, you maybe are down tomorrow... and the people you help... or humiliate today might be in a position to make a decision about your life tomorrow.

                              I personally help some people, and it does not particularly benefit me... but it also is not hurting me to help, if I can...

                              I probably am a bit idealistic on this.. I like to think there is a way to establish some form of social contract... if not as a society as a whole... at least in a smaller scale...

                              Especially when they don't even bother to come in the right way, with the proper level of respect and gratitude.
                              You are not a very friendly host to begin with... And you saying that if it was up to you, you will kick all hispanics out... kida establish upfront that you are not eligebly of any gratitud.

                              Eh it keeps the rabble happy.

                              Of course it results in offshoring of industry and makes the entire workforce uncompetative globally.

                              But that's not my problem, I don't work at McDonalds, I don't eat at McDonalds.
                              It is more of your problem than mine... To be honest...

                              I am not trying to diminish you in this aspect, it is yours the way things are... you see... we agree that minimum wages make US legal workers uncompetitive... I said one of the sideeffects is the illegal workers, they can compete in prices in a way we chant... you mention another side effect is that companies will take jobs to countries where employees can offer work for a more competitive salary...

                              This 2 side effects do affect us a great deal, however, I personally am in a better situation to adapt to it... For example I have zero emotional or nostalgic feeling about any land... If the situation in US gets too bad and the situation in China looks so great... it is some paperwork and a plane ticket away... People like you, you are attached to the land... you are the kind of people that said "I was born here and I will die here". So if a bad policy, like minimum wages, makes your parcel bad... you just stay and get bitter.

                              If the stoopids want minimum wage, they can have minimum wage, it's no skin off my nose.

                              This is how business people think :

                              Step 1. You make your stupid laws. Let's say minimum wage is X.
                              Step 2. I figure out how to comply with your stupid laws and still make a buck, for example by pricing my Big Mac at Y.
                              Step 3. If they raise the minimum wage, I raise the price of Big Macs.
                              Step 4. If they raise the tax, I raise the price of Big Macs.
                              Step 5. If they lower the tax, I keep the price the same because people are already used to it.

                              Rinse Repeat
                              There is a breaking point... it eventually can get to a point where it is not profitable anymore and they will close the door and find something better to invest on.

                              In fact having alot of stoopids in your society can be good for business.
                              LOL

                              Sometimes it's good to take a hiatus from the "developed world" and go start a business in a less developed country where people are still normal and you can kick people out of your store who don't buy anything and you can stare at women's tits and they like it.

                              Globalism threatens that.

                              It means you can't escape London and go open a coffee shop in Morocco or something.

                              Because it's all globalized, there's SJW bullshit everywhere.
                              We see this different... In a more global world, going from London to Morocco would be easier, not harder...

                              This is 2018, even dead people vote.
                              Ahhh, cynical opinions about the democracy... perhaps you didn't need to import Mexico to turn into Mexico after all... just kinda start to think like one, and you will get there...

                              And there you was so worry about building a wall to stop the people... while there was not wall that stopped you to adopt that kind of mentality.

                              Here just checking out... you don't vote because you think that is a waste of time just to choose what corrupt politician is going to steal your money.. they are all the same?

                              Your anti-American agenda is clear as you claim crimes that were investigated and cleared by credible parties.

                              If the US Army says it didn't happen then it didn't happen.

                              This is the last we will speak of this.
                              The investigation report said they were not able to find the victim to interview her... so they report that they didn't found any concluding evidence...

                              There are about 3 reasons why people disappear in Colombia... none of them are pretty... in 2 of those reasons she is dead...

                              So... there is a big difference between saying that they found out it was lies, than to say they didn't found enough evidence to make a conclusion... because, people... "disappeared"...

                              You see a country as a mafia... down there, it is a real mafia...

                              Govt is a necessary evil.

                              It should be as small and local as possible.

                              Think about this.

                              Let's say we have a large global govt, it becomes like an 800 pound gorilla. Nobody can beat it or escape it.

                              And then Trump takes office.

                              Or worse. Hillary. Or Putin.

                              Send a shiver down your spine yet?

                              Countries need to be small for the same reason that ships have watertight doors between compartments.

                              If one compartment floods, it doesn't take down the whole ship.
                              I don't measure the size of the country for the miles of territory it covers... but for how much it gets its hand into the lives of the people... for the numbers of laws and regulations, that is it...

                              Anyway, you are living in US... what is it? the second or third largest country in the world? Few post ago you was telling me all the good of having such union.. now you are telling me all the problems of having large unions... so what is it?

                              Brexit doesn't mean there's no trade.

                              Everything is negotiable.
                              Up to today, they have not close any negotiation...

                              They have until March 29... that will be the end of the 2 years of time, to negotiate... but after 2 years, there is nothing, the only thing they have done so far, to prepare for the separation of the EU was to change the color of the passports...

                              Recently May presented a proposal of a deal to the parliament.. people from her own political party walked out of it, they claim they are going to start a new political party, get May impeached, and get into power someone who is not a traitor to the brexit... then again... 6 months before hard brexit hits...

                              They can still make deals after March... but that means... the time they expend negotiating those deal, will be dead time.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                                After about 5 pages of you telling me how and why whites are better than "darkies"... now you say you don't care about genetics... LOL

                                I am debating your claim that their problems are genetic...

                                Mexico have their problems... but I don't think it is as broken as you think it is.

                                It doesn't show up in anything you say... YOu have being telling me about tribes... again... for pages...
                                Blah blah blah.

                                You're a rabid globalist who wants to race-mix people just to say they race-mixed, it's an end in itself.

                                I say I don't care about genetics as long as we screen for high-quality people that will make our team stronger.

                                You see that as a racist imperative, it doesn't satisfy your race-mixing quota.

                                As a side note, you're ticking every jewish stereotype known to man with your "interracial hard sell" while you sit in whiteyville in your executive leather chair.

                                Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                                I used to be a social darwinist too... when I was about 13 years old...

                                You see... when you are young and strong is easy to say... let the weak die.

                                But eventually you will realize that you don't know what turns the life may make... and if you are up today, you maybe are down tomorrow... and the people you help... or humiliate today might be in a position to make a decision about your life tomorrow.

                                I personally help some people, and it does not particularly benefit me... but it also is not hurting me to help, if I can...

                                I probably am a bit idealistic on this.. I like to think there is a way to establish some form of social contract... if not as a society as a whole... at least in a smaller scale...
                                Business and Charity are two different things.

                                Also charity begins at home.

                                There are lots of Americans who need a hand before we start looking across the border.

                                Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                                You are not a very friendly host to begin with... And you saying that if it was up to you, you will kick all hispanics out... kida establish upfront that you are not eligebly of any gratitud.
                                Yeah well you're kind of a dick too.

                                Also incredibly dogmatic and one-dimensional.

                                Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                                It is more of your problem than mine... To be honest...

                                I am not trying to diminish you in this aspect, it is yours the way things are... you see... we agree that minimum wages make US legal workers uncompetitive... I said one of the sideeffects is the illegal workers, they can compete in prices in a way we chant... you mention another side effect is that companies will take jobs to countries where employees can offer work for a more competitive salary...

                                This 2 side effects do affect us a great deal, however, I personally am in a better situation to adapt to it... For example I have zero emotional or nostalgic feeling about any land... If the situation in US gets too bad and the situation in China looks so great... it is some paperwork and a plane ticket away... People like you, you are attached to the land... you are the kind of people that said "I was born here and I will die here". So if a bad policy, like minimum wages, makes your parcel bad... you just stay and get bitter.
                                Yeah I'm sure China would be thrilled to have you, they love rabble rousers and they need your $100 taxes.

                                Please make sure to bring your mother so they have someone to bill for the bullet.

                                Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                                The investigation report said they were not able to find the victim to interview her... so they report that they didn't found any concluding evidence...
                                And you apparently have better evidence than the investigators, right?

                                Like I said buddy.

                                Don't call people with machine guns and expect something good to happen.

                                Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                                I don't measure the size of the country for the miles of territory it covers... but for how much it gets its hand into the lives of the people... for the numbers of laws and regulations, that is it...

                                Anyway, you are living in US... what is it? the second or third largest country in the world? Few post ago you was telling me all the good of having such union.. now you are telling me all the problems of having large unions... so what is it?
                                By "size" I mean a govt's influence and hegemony.

                                Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                                Up to today, they have not close any negotiation...

                                They have until March 29... that will be the end of the 2 years of time, to negotiate... but after 2 years, there is nothing, the only thing they have done so far, to prepare for the separation of the EU was to change the color of the passports...

                                Recently May presented a proposal of a deal to the parliament.. people from her own political party walked out of it, they claim they are going to start a new political party, get May impeached, and get into power someone who is not a traitor to the brexit... then again... 6 months before hard brexit hits...

                                They can still make deals after March... but that means... the time they expend negotiating those deal, will be dead time.
                                Blah blah blah.

                                Brexit will happen.

                                Trade will continue.

                                Send Africa back to Africa, send Mexico back to Mexico.

                                Import only the best and brightest.

                                Promote charity, condoms and stability throughout the world.

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