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  • #16
    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    I guess I am a native american too.
    Also fake ashkenazi white boy pretending to be member of 4000 year middle-eastern tribe.

    Praying at synagogue don't make you jewish, that's just a lie they tell the shabbos goy, "you can join us!"

    If you're not born into it, you'll never be one of us.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by simpleman View Post
      The only problem they have in their country of origin, accordingly to you, is that they don't get pay enough at the local burger king... you said.

      Oh wait I get it now.

      We import all the "law abiding people" and all the gangs will kindly stay in Honduras.

      Or maybe not.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by dubs View Post

        Oh wait I get it now.

        We import all the "law abiding people" and all the gangs will kindly stay in Honduras.

        Or maybe not.
        The gangs actually where created in US and then exported into those countries...

        what do you think the 13 and 18 means?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by dubs View Post

          Also fake ashkenazi white boy pretending to be member of 4000 year middle-eastern tribe.

          Praying at synagogue don't make you jewish, that's just a lie they tell the shabbos goy, "you can join us!"

          If you're not born into it, you'll never be one of us.
          I'm not askenazi...

          My family are crypto jews from Spain... thanks for your interest.

          I find it fascinating your animistic impulses to be destructive... how someone can become so miserable human being?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
            what do you think the 13 and 18 means?
            The 13? Which group of the Surenos they're affiliated with. The 18 stands for 18th street. And they were "exported" (deported) after the Mexican mafia "imported" (illegally immigrated) them. This is why we need better border security and improved immigration vetting.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JamesNunya View Post

              The 13? Which group of the Surenos they're affiliated with. The 18 stands for 18th street. And they were "exported" (deported) after the Mexican mafia "imported" (illegally immigrated) them. This is why we need better border security and improved immigration vetting.
              13 is another competing street... both gangs are not from Mexicans but Salvadoreans... the thing here to consider is that there was no gangs on the country of origin, they where created in america, and because failed american policies, and when it became a problem they ship them back to another country as in "it is not my problem now"... looks like another failed policy because the victims of this gangs are now at the door.

              This is the wiki fo the 13:

              "The Mara Salvatrucha gang originated in Los Angeles, set up in the 1980s by Salvadoran immigrants in the city's Pico-Union neighborhood who immigrated to the United States after the Central American civil wars of the 1980s.[21]

              Originally, the gang's main purpose was to protect Salvadoran immigrants from other, more established gangs of Los Angeles, who were predominantly composed of Mexicans and African-Americans.[22]

              Many Mara Salvatrucha gang members from the Los Angeles area have been deported after being arrested.[23] For example, Jose Abrego, a high-ranking member, was deported four times.[24] As a result of these deportations, members of MS-13 have recruited more members in their home countries.[25] The Los Angeles Times contends that deportation policies have contributed to the size and influence of the gang both in the United States and in Central America.
              "
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-13#History

              The 18 as you might see are in the majority second generation of immigrants... hence americans:

              "The 18th Street gang grew by expanding its membership to other nationalities and races, and it was among the first multiracial, multi-ethnic gangs in Los Angeles.[1] In the beginning, they were made up largely of second-generation Hispanics.[1] As the 18th Street gang began to battle with more established Hispanic gangs, they began to recruit outside the Hispanic community."
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_18

              But this is not the only or the worse case US have try to get rid of a problem created in US by pushing it to another country... for instance see what happened on the failed Liberia.

              So from my point of view it appears as if you are OK with the fact of creating toxic environments that create violence and then sending that violence somewhere else and think that everything would have being fixed if there was a wall somewhere.

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              • #22


                White men created western civilization.

                They sacrificed and produced everything for that.

                Everyone else wants access to it without putting anything in.

                Women wanted the vote without the draft.

                They want power without responsibilities.

                Non-whites want middle-class lifestyle without producing anything.

                They can't split the atom or produce 747's.

                All they can do is wash your car or sell dope.

                But they complain about "income inequality."

                So what will happen is this.

                All of society will go down to the lowest common denominator.

                There is no point in trying to succeed or produce anything or benefit society.

                All of the jobs are make-work affirmative action jobs.

                Do-nothing jobs for women and minorities where they pay you $15/hr to just sit there push papers around.

                And make you feel important.

                Like you are part of the team.

                But really you are just a burden to society.

                Eventually white men will be extinct, no one will produce anything useful.

                And slowly slowly we all become "Venezuela-Lite."

                I really appreciate that so many lib/progs try to "libsplain" how it is actually a benefit to have all of these refugees.

                It's like Feminists when they try to explain that giving women more rights is good for men.

                "Equality produces better health, better sex, better etc etc."

                But it's all bullshit.

                Women are just taking and not giving anything.

                Same with refugees.

                Everybody tries to be "nice." Tries to be "civil."

                Everybody tries to pretend that it will all work out. Somehow.

                A bright future for everybody.

                But in reality it's a scam.

                White men produce.

                Everyone else eats.

                That's how the world is.

                And the simple fact is that no one will ever take their foot off white men's neck.

                If white men ran their own countries, they wouldn't even be on planet Earth anymore.

                They'd be in space in 30 years living in robotic bodies or something.

                Without the burden of women and non-whites.

                And so, Trump can try to save what's left of "Western Civilization."

                But the truth is there is not much left.

                It has already been looted.

                Women and non-whites will inherit the dead carcass of civilization that they helped to kill.

                And then they will be angry at people who no longer exist.

                They will knock over statues.

                They will deface statues of white men.

                They will paint over murals of white men who died to give them freedom.

                Because that is all they can do.

                That is the extent of their talent.

                They can't produce the Iliad or Michaelangelo's David or Mozart.

                All they can do is destroy what someone else created.

                They can criticize.

                They can say "racist, sexist, misogynist."

                But when the electric goes out, it goes out.

                When the sewers stop working, they stop working.

                That's why California is burning down to the ground, everyone that kept the place running has already left.

                Now they have water problems, fire problems, mudslides, brown outs, medical care in California is like being in the third-world, if you have a real medical emergency you will die in the waiting room.

                In a very real way, all the people that came from South America to California?

                They are back in South America again.

                California has no real economy to speak of, and it takes 3 hours to drive a road that takes 20 minutes.

                It is for all intents and purposes a third world country.

                California is Venezuela Lite.

                And so I would like to congratulate Lib/Progressive comrades on their victory.

                Although I wouldn't count white alphas like Trump out just yet.

                I think Trump is like the 300 at Thermopolae.

                With the vast liberal army against him, wearing cunt hats, and hipsters, and hijabs, and an army of brofags like Anderson Cooper.

                I think the far-right knows it can't win.

                But it can certainly humiliate you and make you pay in blood.

                You /will/ understand the worth of White Men.

                And you certainly won't "replace" them.

                You're not even worthy of their shadow.


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                • #23
                  So, you immigrate to the US and, what? Everything is just supposed to be magically delicious? And if not your only alternative is gangs? They failed themselves. And the policy to deport criminally violent immigrants can be improved how? Give them a hug? You sound very far left lately. Deportation is the only appropriate action.

                  The only guaranteed way of eliminating gang violence is to eliminate gangs. Don't arrest them, just shoot them in the face. But that is inhumane and we need to be better. So, deportation. Got a better idea? Let's hear it.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by dubs View Post

                    White men created western civilization.
                    And they did it alone... never needed the contribution of anyone else... right?

                    They can't split the atom or produce 747's.
                    Can you? can you split an atom???

                    And make you feel important.
                    Looks like the other option is to no archive anything, but claim credit on the achievements of people that have a similar color of skin... LOL

                    And slowly slowly we all become "Venezuela-Lite."
                    The fall of Venezuela started with electing a national socialist that does not care much about good administration than he care about his ego and populism...

                    Women are just taking and not giving anything.

                    Same with refugees.
                    You would have close the door on the face of your parents?

                    And so, Trump can try to save what's left of "Western Civilization."
                    LOL

                    They will knock over statues.
                    I don't think you really want to go there...

                    Let me give you a hint the people that vandalized Cudjoe Lewis statue was not black... can you guess the color of their skin?

                    http://blog.al.com/live/2011/03/mobi...andalized.html

                    Ahhh but you don't hear about this things in mainstream media... there must be some conspiracy about it.... right?


                    They will deface statues of white men.
                    that'd be doves...

                    They can't produce the Iliad or Michaelangelo's David or Mozart.
                    Uh.... you really want to talk about music?


                    And you certainly won't "replace" them.
                    Back to the "Jews will not replace us"???

                    I though the people that actually split the atom where jews...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JamesNunya View Post
                      So, you immigrate to the US and, what? Everything is just supposed to be magically delicious? And if not your only alternative is gangs? They failed themselves. And the policy to deport criminally violent immigrants can be improved how? Give them a hug? You sound very far left lately. Deportation is the only appropriate action.

                      The only guaranteed way of eliminating gang violence is to eliminate gangs. Don't arrest them, just shoot them in the face. But that is inhumane and we need to be better. So, deportation. Got a better idea? Let's hear it.
                      I think we both agree in the point that there is problems on the countries they are coming from and there is problems in US too...

                      What I am trying to sort out is that gang violence is not a problem that originated there, but here. And it is not just hispanic gangs, you will find pretty much all sort of gangs in US... it is a widespread problem.

                      Pushing the immigrants back to their country did not fix the gang problems in US, but it did created a new set of problem in those countries. I think I am right at calling this a failed solution.

                      Pretending that a wall will prevent gangs to enter US is a bit stupid, if we consider that gangs are created in US.. the wall will not fix the problem... at best it will slow down the gang members from entering at the wall location. Will the wall completely stop it? I don't think so... and is the wall a real solution to the gang problem in US? I don't think so neither.

                      Want to shoot gang members on the face... be my guess... go for it...

                      Now as you ask me what solutions I can come with... Here I am goign to sin of idealist.... again.

                      For what my understanding goes, there is 3 main factors that create an environment that is conductive to gangs:

                      1. Cultural segregation
                      2. Lack of opportunity
                      3. Institutional incompetence/corruption.

                      1. Cultural Segregation: I understand being proud of your culture, but the problem is going to surge when self pride turns into discrimination of others. then you create this cultural bubbles, and eventually they will clash between each other resulting in violence, and this violence will turn into organized violent groups, hence the origin of gangs. We can follow all this process and find that the line is crossed when violence starts... There is ways to control and prevent it before it get to that point... but obviously it is not happening. This problem have been running for so long that it appears at some level gangs are now part of the culture of some of this cultural bubbles...

                      2. Lack of Opportunity: I do understand this problem much better than the others, because I come from a place where there is not opportunity at all... but basically... if you ask a kid what he wants to do when he be an adult, and the answer is "gang member"... then you know there is lack of opportunity. I think if you coach those kids into a real career, and help them get there, they might consider doing someting else than "gang banging".

                      3. Institutional incompetence/corruption: I am goign to point out here the 3 main institutions that are more influential to a child life. School, police and family. There is problems on this 3... and the fact that I list police there should tell you something. Talking about schools, I am sure you can track the same problems that create gang members to the same problems that create mass shooters. I think they are on the good track about bullying, but I think they are failing on that their actual policy is repressing instead of channeling.

                      On this framework... where I am talking about kids as young as 8 (or less) are already starting into the gang path... your solution to shoot them in the face (when they are 20 or more) appears to be... inefficient.... you see? you can kill gang members today, but if you don't fix what made them gangs in the first place, the next wave will come up in a couple of years and you will have a whole new set of people to kill... and it will never end. I also have data to support my claim.. social cleansing have being tried before and all it archived was to turn gangs more violent, total annihilation was never archived. And it does create another set of problems... and social cleansing never limits itself to a single demographic, you start with gang members, then do gays, then do drunktards, then do retards, then do catholics, then do albinos, then do irish... it tent to spread that way. There is places like China where at some point they even target "intellectuals"... because educated and smart people are the cause of the problems... they said...

                      I agree with you... it is hard to make a good citizen starting with a gang member that have years of experiences and criminal decisions that got him there... is hard... a hug will not do it. It will take a lot more.

                      But it would not be that much hard if you start when they are no commited to that lifestyle yet... we don't go ahead for that person, the gangs will... we don't take the time to coach them, the gangs will. They think it is worth it.

                      And that is my lefty idealist solution.

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                      • #26

                        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                        And they did it alone... never needed the contribution of anyone else... right?
                        "Needed?" No

                        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                        Can you? can you split an atom???
                        I can do anything I put my mind to.

                        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                        Looks like the other option is to no archive anything, but claim credit on the achievements of people that have a similar color of skin...
                        a. I'm not white
                        b. If someone else's ancestors built them a civilization, I am only entitled to a place in that civilization at the discretion of its heirs.
                        c. I don't seek that which does not belong to me and I don't covet my neighbor's wife.
                        d. My parents did not immigrate to America for charity or to "get something" they came to America as business people, to contribute and be good citizens, not to join gangs or cause problems.
                        e. You don't know me, you have no idea what I've achieved, nor do I claim anyone else's achievements.

                        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                        You would have close the door on the face of your parents?
                        It is not within my right or purview to open or close a door on my parents.

                        I didn't build this country, I didn't build western civilization, I didn't bleed or die for it, it's not my door to open or close.

                        The door belongs to the heirs of western civilization, mainly Europeans but also others who have also been part of it and contributed to it.

                        Where it concerns my parents, their job was to fill out the forms, show up neatly dressed for interviews, and submit themselves to the process.

                        America is a great country, a generous country with opportunities oozing out of every oriface.

                        You have to be a complete fuckup and moron to join "caravans" and "gangs" and all of that.

                        I know guys who can barely read and write who work as a scrapper in a beat up van earning 80k a year.

                        And then you have "them."

                        People whose ancestors have been here for 400+ years sitting on welfare, complaining about "discrimination."

                        5 kids, 5 different fathers, 3 of them in prison.

                        You know who I'm talking about. You know.

                        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                        Let me give you a hint the people that vandalized Cudjoe Lewis statue was not black... can you guess the color of their skin?
                        I don't know, but they're offering a $500 reward if you have that information.

                        Tell me and we'll split the prize.

                        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                        Uh.... you really want to talk about music?
                        Ok but if you start posting rap videos, I'm blocking you.

                        jk

                        Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                        Back to the "Jews will not replace us"???

                        I though the people that actually split the atom where jews...
                        More like the other way around, seeing as ashkenazim dominate jewish society.

                        The white boys replaced the jews. lol

                        j/k

                        ~~~~

                        PS - I saw what you wrote to JamesNunya. "Lack of Opportunity?" "Cultural Segregation?" Really? Who is segregating them other than themselves. People come to this country who even 20 years later can't speak English and run grocery stores, they send their kids to Harvard. Let me tell you something buddy, in all seriousness. If you can't make it America, you can't make it anywhere.

                        The problem is that some people are simply not compatible (on a deep level) with Western civilization.

                        It's like in Europe they have to print out papers in Somali, "Don't rape people, that's not allowed."

                        Like you have to tell people very basic things like "don't shit on the carpet." "Don't steal." "Don't shoot people." "Don't rob people."

                        If you have to tell people that, if you have to have classes and programs and seminars, you are bringing people who are not compatible with basic social norms.

                        Like "people can mock Mohammed and you are not allowed to kill them."

                        This is very basic thing. Freedom of ideas. Freedom of expression.

                        El Salvador is not poor because it lacks magic water.

                        El Salvador is poor because "gang member" is a career choice. "B-but there are no opportunities!" Um. Try carpenter. Driver. Roofer. Plumber. Farmer. Shopkeeper. I promise, if you know how to fix a roof, people will pay you to do it, even in El Salvador or anywhere. If all else fails, you can fix the roofs of gang members. They can kill each other and you can be on the roof applying tar.

                        This is what people don't understand.

                        You don't have to look for a job in the paper.

                        You learn a skill. And then you go do it. Even for free. And as time goes on, people will see your work and say "Hey come and do mine." And they will pay you.

                        Just like websites. Just like roofing. Just like anything.

                        What is this shit you talking, "There's no jobs, so I had to be a gang member." Fuck that bullshit, you low IQ subhuman, fucking mutant. You think gang member is a job? You think killing people is a job? You think tatooing your eyebrows is a job?

                        People like that don't deserve to live.

                        I'm glad the police and military is trying to kill you, before you hurt someone innocent (like a roofer.)

                        ~~~~

                        PPS - I really enjoy these talks we are having. You're a smart kid, very knowledgable and civilized. Bit naive. You'll learn.


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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by dubs View Post
                          I can do anything I put my mind to.
                          Have not put your mind to split atoms yet?

                          a. I'm not white
                          b. If someone else's ancestors built them a civilization, I am only entitled to a place in that civilization at the discretion of its heirs.
                          c. I don't seek that which does not belong to me and I don't covet my neighbor's wife.
                          d. My parents did not immigrate to America for charity or to "get something" they came to America as business people, to contribute and be good citizens, not to join gangs or cause problems.
                          e. You don't know me, you have no idea what I've achieved, nor do I claim anyone else's achievements.
                          a. I am white
                          b. my ancestors builded the civilization
                          c. I own nothing
                          d. Your parents migrated to get something... otherwise they would have stayed where they where.
                          e. i know what you say here.

                          I didn't build this country, I didn't build western civilization, I didn't bleed or die for it, it's not my door to open or close.
                          Sometimes I think that by western civilization you actually mean US and about 6 countries in Europe... LOL... it is a log more bigger than that you think...

                          Honduras is part of the western civilization.

                          Where it concerns my parents, their job was to fill out the forms, show up neatly dressed for interviews, and submit themselves to the process.
                          And probably paye for the paperwork?

                          You remember the other day I told you that the citizenship of Dominica is around 1/4 million dollars> This prices come giving offer and demand, here a couple of numbers that you will find interesting:L

                          The cost of obtaining US citizenship:

                          Application for Naturalization: $640
                          https://www.uscis.gov/forms/our-fees

                          Now... if for any reason you want to resign the citizenship.... this is how much it is:

                          Renouncing U.S. citizenship: $2,350
                          https://nl.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen...s-citizenship/

                          The difference of the prices respond to simple market dynamics, offer and demand... they set the price of citizenship that cheap so more people can apply, they recently made the renouncing of it so expensive to stop so many people that was renouncing it.

                          Now... take some time to think what this really means Mr Western Civilization... LOL.


                          5 kids, 5 different fathers, 3 of them in prison.

                          You know who I'm talking about. You know.
                          That was in the 80s... now there is not so much of them as... everybody.

                          I don't know, but they're offering a $500 reward if you have that information.

                          Tell me and we'll split the prize.
                          White guys cry all day about wanting they 260 general lee statues... can't bear the though of a statue for a black guy, then go an vandalize it... hypocrisy at it best.

                          Ok but if you start posting rap videos, I'm blocking you.
                          I think we should open a new forum debate for the music...

                          More like the other way around, seeing as ashkenazim dominate jewish society.

                          The white boys replaced the jews. lol

                          j/k
                          O.o

                          PS - I saw what you wrote to JamesNunya. "Lack of Opportunity?" "Cultural Segregation?" Really? Who is segregating them other than themselves. People come to this country who even 20 years later can't speak English and run grocery stores, they send their kids to Harvard. Let me tell you something buddy, in all seriousness. If you can't make it America, you can't make it anywhere.
                          I think there are many different factors to this segregation.

                          Like "people can mock Mohammed and you are not allowed to kill them."
                          There is recent stances of people being killed by mocking Jesus. Granted, no on the same numbers or frequency... but still.

                          El Salvador is poor because "gang member" is a career choice. "B-but there are no opportunities!" Um. Try carpenter. Driver. Roofer. Plumber. Farmer. Shopkeeper. I promise, if you know how to fix a roof, people will pay you to do it, even in El Salvador or anywhere. If all else fails, you can fix the roofs of gang members. They can kill each other and you can be on the roof applying tar.
                          Then you made wild claims... like.. you have travel the world.. or so... even if it does not show.

                          You learn a skill. And then you go do it. Even for free. And as time goes on, people will see your work and say "Hey come and do mine." And they will pay you.
                          Lest break that in pieces... then...

                          Step 1 is... learn a skill... this must mean access to some level of education, right?

                          Step 2, do it even for free... LOL

                          Step 3. People see how good I am to fix roof, their roof mess up, they can only affor the free one (If I am not doing it for free anymore, accordingly to you there must be someone doing it for free at that monet)... or else... they just fix it themselves...

                          I am not joking here... at age of 10 I was fixing the roof of the house I live on, by melting styrofoam in gasoline and then using my hands to patch the hole with the mix. I don't know if you have ever seen a roof on those places, but it is just a sheet of metal in wave shape hold in place with some nails, sometimes even some rocks on top just to weigh it down:



                          I am going to make an educated guess here and say that they don't have water in there neither. So there goes your plumbing job...

                          The middle class will have sheets of concrete instead of metal, and the upper class will have red brick tiles.

                          I never knew anyone that was a roofer by profession, or a plumber.. you basically have a guy that works general construction and they do it all. Don't expect quality, though... and nobody works for free... that i can tell you for sure.

                          What is this shit you talking, "There's no jobs, so I had to be a gang member." Fuck that bullshit, you low IQ subhuman, fucking mutant. You think gang member is a job? You think killing people is a job? You think tatooing your eyebrows is a job?
                          In a place like El Salvador a gang member earns 2x a cop's salary... cops have to kill too...

                          A hitman for a drug cartel earn a basic salary each month, work or not, but if he get a job then that is extra money on top of the basic.

                          Or maybe they can just tell the people in that house that they can fix the roof... even for free, as long as they give a good reference... LOL

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                          • #28

                            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                            d. Your parents migrated to get something... otherwise they would have stayed where they where.
                            It's a fair statement but also a rather telling statement.

                            For someone like you, there's no reason to go anywhere but to "get" something.

                            Sometimes relationships are symbiant.

                            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                            Sometimes I think that by western civilization you actually mean US and about 6 countries in Europe...
                            Culturally that's pretty much what "West" means (and I am not the biggest fan of it, personally.)

                            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                            Honduras is part of the western civilization.
                            Honduras is Spanish colonial civilization with a Castillian ruling class trying to keep a lid on a large population of proto-Indio campensinos and leftist guerillas.

                            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                            You remember the other day I told you that the citizenship of Dominica is around 1/4 million dollars> This prices come giving offer and demand, here a couple of numbers that you will find interesting:L

                            The cost of obtaining US citizenship:

                            Application for Naturalization: $640
                            https://www.uscis.gov/forms/our-fees

                            Now... if for any reason you want to resign the citizenship.... this is how much it is:

                            Renouncing U.S. citizenship: $2,350
                            https://nl.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen...s-citizenship/

                            The difference of the prices respond to simple market dynamics, offer and demand... they set the price of citizenship that cheap so more people can apply, they recently made the renouncing of it so expensive to stop so many people that was renouncing it.

                            Now... take some time to think what this really means Mr Western Civilization... LOL.
                            I assume you have a point, go ahead and make it.

                            Dominica sounds like an offshort banking haven.

                            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                            White guys cry all day about wanting they 260 general lee statues... can't bear the though of a statue for a black guy, then go an vandalize it... hypocrisy at it best.
                            Are there any black people statues in Israel or they still booting them out?

                            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                            Step 1 is... learn a skill... this must mean access to some level of education, right?
                            Depends.

                            Some people are self-taught.

                            In general it's not good to think of education as, "Ok here is the money, educate me."

                            Educate yourself, read a book, try things, it's not like Thomas Edison went to MIT.

                            Most people who go to University are overeducated beyond their intelligence.

                            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                            I am not joking here... at age of 10 I was fixing the roof of the house I live on, by melting styrofoam in gasoline and then using my hands to patch the hole with the mix. I don't know if you have ever seen a roof on those places, but it is just a sheet of metal in wave shape hold in place with some nails, sometimes even some rocks on top just to weigh it down:
                            Good. Yes, I've seen it.

                            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                            I never knew anyone that was a roofer by profession, or a plumber.. you basically have a guy that works general construction and they do it all. Don't expect quality, though... and nobody works for free... that i can tell you for sure.
                            Depends, I mean the more intricate the structure, the more specialized the knowledge.

                            If you live in a mud hut, you don't need a plumber to stick a pipe thru the wall, but if you're running pipe to the 40th floor of a condo, you better know what you're doing.

                            Originally posted by simpleman View Post
                            In a place like El Salvador a gang member earns 2x a cop's salary... cops have to kill too...

                            A hitman for a drug cartel earn a basic salary each month, work or not, but if he get a job then that is extra money on top of the basic.

                            Or maybe they can just tell the people in that house that they can fix the roof... even for free, as long as they give a good reference... LOL
                            You can pay me a billion dollars I won't be a hitman or a dirty cop.

                            I'll do IT, telecom, real estate, trucking, I'll even do roofing.

                            Honest jobs.

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                            • #29
                              Anyone who thinks becoming a gang member is the only, best, or even just a viable option lacks a seriously needed level of integrity and the world would probably be better off without them anyway.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by JamesNunya View Post
                                Anyone who thinks becoming a gang member is the only, best, or even just a viable option lacks a seriously needed level of integrity and the world would probably be better off without them anyway.
                                I am talking about kids under the age of 10 giving this kind of answer... Maybe you are right and the kid is a little piece of shit that should be killed... or maybe something is wrong with the society around him...

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