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    I previously mentioned this on AntiMisandry and the Mensrights subreddit, and it got a lot of responses, but I figure that since AVfM has a forum now, I'm as well mentioning it here.

    The other day, I encountered some rather severe misandry at work. It started when two co-workers, an older man (probably around 40, but I'm not sure) and a younger woman (not that young, probably in her late 20s but that's just an estimate) accidently rubbed against each other. Although both of them were equally responsible, the man got told off for sexual harassment by an older woman who is a high-status female co-worker who was just one level below the boss.

    This then led to a discussion advocating violence against men. The older woman asked "what do you do if there's a man who likes you but you don't like him back?" and the younger one replied "you slap him!" then the older one said no and suggested more severe types of violence. I wasn't able to look because I actually had work to do, but I was listening carefully. The older woman said something about "pressure points" and what the best area is to hit a man and how to deal the biggest amount of pain. The man who got previously accused of sexual harassment was just sitting there laughing.

    And feminists say that violence against women is taught and encouraged...

    Of course, if you're an active MRA, you're probably used to hearing stories of violence against men being not only taught and encouraged by the general public, but even by professionals.

  • #2
    RE: Violence against men being taught by a professional

    I've witnessed similar things all through my school years.

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    • #3
      RE: Violence against men being taught by a professional

      Violence against women and girls is taught from an early age and is egged on by society
      why do i get the feeling youre describing a situation like that and switched the genders around??

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      • #4
        RE: Violence against men being taught by a professional

        Originally posted by Irune
        Violence against women and girls is taught from an early age and is egged on by society
        I must have missed that class. You're full of it.

        Are you here to sabotage the forum?

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        • #5
          RE: Violence against men being taught by a professional

          Zebru...I still reel in shock hearing this stuff.
          I've worked in forensic psychiatry units so have received 'deescalation and breakaway' training, and it was made very clear to us that reasonable force was about getting away safely, not inflicting harm, and was only to be used if verbal tools had failed. Around 1/3 of the training was 'risk assessment' to avoid getting into these situations in the first place.
          Scots law is clear...if someone is after you with a knife, a knee kick to disable them to get away is self defense, kicking them once they are down is common assault
          Be still and cool in thine own mind and spirit.
          George Fox

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          • #6
            RE: Violence against men being taught by a professional

            This may be slightly off topic but, it's amazing how much time we spend not working due these stupid sexual harassment meetings/workshops. I'm against all of these general sensitivity meetings. Lets pretend for a second that there really was an incidence of sexual harassment, racism or even physical abuse in my office. Why does that mean that everyone else, who was not involved and has shown no history of the behavior, has to be pulled away from their important work to be taught how not to do those things they weren't doing in the first place.

            I'd like to add that from my experience, the sexual harassment sensitivity training is certainly the most common and useless of the bunch. It amounts to telling you to not do things which are clearly sexual assault and goes on to a message of "try to figure out what a particular woman finds uncomfortable or offensive and try not to do that around her." Can we all just pretend we are professionals that have real work to do?

            On the topic of socially accepted violence against men being advocated in a workplace; the women discussing attacking and harming a man who's only crime was expressing interest in a woman should be seriously reprimanded. It sounds like the man was being subjected to some mild humiliation after it was implied he has made a sexual transgression even though he had not. If two men stood next to woman and discussed violent ways to react to unwanted attention from women, they would probably get fired.

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            • #7
              RE: Violence against men being taught by a professional

              Most places have an anonymous hotline, call it and tell them you feel unsafe working in an environment where two women were threatening assault and bodily harm against a male coworker because of a workplace bump.
              All Three of them will have to go through mediation and all three deserve it, the women for being misandrist pigs, and the man for sitting there and laughing like it was funny. The only way society changes it's viewpoint is by having it's nose rubbed in it again and again, which it seems like these three need.
              My favorite MRA: Girl Writes What

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              • #8
                RE: Violence against men being taught by a professional

                I was managing a detail shop many years ago, and a young girl that was working for me (she was hired by the owner) accused me of sexual harassment because I asked her to clean some windows in a car ( P.S that is one of the duties of a automotive detail-er). I then explained to her that she could either do the windows or go home and explain to my boss why she was sent home.

                I will never forget her face the next day when my manager and the general manger of the dealership was removing a verbal strip from her for abusing sexual harassment to get out of work.

                That is the way it should be dealt with, but not anymore.

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                • #9
                  RE: Violence against men being taught by a professional

                  Originally posted by yennedtrebor
                  Most places have an anonymous hotline, call it and tell them you feel unsafe working in an environment where two women were threatening assault and bodily harm against a male coworker because of a workplace bump.
                  All Three of them will have to go through mediation and all three deserve it, the women for being misandrist pigs, and the man for sitting there and laughing like it was funny. The only way society changes it's viewpoint is by having it's nose rubbed in it again and again, which it seems like these three need.
                  Um, ok. What are the chances that the women would be brought into a mediation session? Really......:huh:
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                  Originally posted by TheUprightMan
                  This may be slightly off topic but, it's amazing how much time we spend not working due these stupid sexual harassment meetings/workshops. I'm against all of these general sensitivity meetings. Lets pretend for a second that there really was an incidence of sexual harassment, racism or even physical abuse in my office. Why does that mean that everyone else, who was not involved and has shown no history of the behavior, has to be pulled away from their important work to be taught how not to do those things they weren't doing in the first place.

                  I'd like to add that from my experience, the sexual harassment sensitivity training is certainly the most common and useless of the bunch. It amounts to telling you to not do things which are clearly sexual assault and goes on to a message of "try to figure out what a particular woman finds uncomfortable or offensive and try not to do that around her." Can we all just pretend we are professionals that have real work to do?

                  On the topic of socially accepted violence against men being advocated in a workplace; the women discussing attacking and harming a man who's only crime was expressing interest in a woman should be seriously reprimanded. It sounds like the man was being subjected to some mild humiliation after it was implied he has made a sexual transgression even though he had not. If two men stood next to woman and discussed violent ways to react to unwanted attention from women, they would probably get fired.
                  As an IT department Manager I have to take these fucking classes 3 times a year. It's the same crap over and over again. In the last class I took I asked the HR department to provide scenarios where women sexually harass men to be included in the next class. The expressions on the HR director's face was priceless. She was shocked that a man asked to have a scenario depicted where a woman sexually harasses a man. To her it was the equivalent of me asking why the sky is blue.
                  De oppresso liber

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                  • #10
                    RE: Violence against men being taught by a professional

                    If the man receives mediation and the women do not, huge opening for a lawsuit. One that if I were an employee I would find a lawyer to do pro bono, or a slice of any winnings as payment.
                    My favorite MRA: Girl Writes What

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                    • #11
                      RE: Violence against men being taught by a professional

                      What the man did was make it seem like what the women did was acceptable, so if the person who does that gets mediation but not the people actually doing the unacceptable behaviour, then there's obviously a misandry problem.

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