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    http://www.avoiceformen.com/featured...spankaleftist/

    Spank a fucking leftist! Just seeing that # alone made me smile. Then I saw the real doozy, 80% of our problems are caused by the left. I've been saying this for years here.
    White privilege is just like 'the patriarchy' for minorities!
    Womyn, to take the man out of woman, too stupid to know Y it's a bad idea

  • #2
    Paul hit the nail on the head. Feminism is a part of the Left, and given they way they seem to take over everything they get involved in, Feminists likely are in the driver's seat of the Leftist bandwagon.

    I do not see how it is possible for any MRA to be a Leftist. You have to be blind to the source of our problems. Feminists do not oppress us, the government oppresses us on their behalf. Without their control of the government, they would just be a bunch of lunatics blabbering on about whatever in some coffee house, and holding marches that everyone ignores. It is the Left's political machine that gives them their muscle.

    I realize it is hard to change sides in the great Left - Right war, but if you finally woke up to realize you and other men have been getting the shaft, maybe you need to look behind you and see which party is wearing the strap on.

    And I am not saying the Right is our friend or is not prone to riding the Feminist bandwagon because it is a political free lunch, but they hate the Left with a passion and could be our allies, if people, like the many good men here, quit fighting the Marxist war against Western Civilization, and start fighting the enemy that caused us men so much grief and harm.
    Last edited by Patriarch; 07-04-2015, 08:54 PM. Reason: To many, commas.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Patriarch View Post
      Paul hit the nail on the head. Feminism is a part of the Left, and given they way they seem to take over everything they get involved in, Feminists likely are in the driver's seat of the Leftist bandwagon.

      I do not see how it is possible for any MRA to be a Leftist. You have to be blind to the source of our problems. Feminists do not oppress us, the government oppresses us on their behalf. Without their control of the government, they would just be a bunch of lunatics blabbering on about whatever in some coffee house, and holding marches that everyone ignores. It is the Left's political machine that gives them their muscle.

      I realize it is hard to change sides in the great Left - Right war, but if you finally woke up to realize you and other men have been getting the shaft, maybe you need to look behind you and see which party is wearing the strap on.

      And I am not saying the Right is our friend or is not prone to riding the Feminist bandwagon because it is a political free lunch, but they hate the Left with a passion, and could be our allies, if people, like the many good men here, quit fighting the Marxist war against Western Civilization, and start fighting the enemy that caused us men so much grief and harm.
      The real right is our friend. Now, granted there is no right wing party in the US that ever gets elected, but if there was, there primary goal would be to shrink the federal government which would, by default, de-fund a lot of these programs that hurt men. States rights and rolling back all these endless laws are helpful to men. Getting rid of the Dept of Education would be a huge step and that is one of things Rand Paul wants to do. The abuse of Title IX could not exist without the federal education bureaucracy.

      As for "trad-con", nobody is forcing anyone to live that life. No right winger wants to make traditional marriage and working arrangements into a law.

      It's not just feminism, the whole left sucks. Whatever good qualities they had are long gone. They are mostly just authoritarians.
      White privilege is just like 'the patriarchy' for minorities!
      Womyn, to take the man out of woman, too stupid to know Y it's a bad idea

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      • #4
        If we all got together and stood behind the leaders of the right, they just might grow a backbone. But they get trashed in the media. Dan Quayle was not a moron, nor Sarah Palin. Rush is not racist/sexist/bigot/homophobe. Neither are Republicans. Gun owners are not drooling, blood thirsty maniacs. Whites do not hate blacks. Christians are not closed-minded.
        Anyone with a brain, and a sense of fairness can look and see, the left has nothing but hate. It almost never has any intellectual or moral substance, and instead, is utterly dependent on the Nazi tactic of demonizing its enemies. They have to.
        This is a point brought up by the great author Crichton. When you see how the media and the left lie and manipulate on a subject you know well and fully, why would you think it is honest on anything?
        If you are here, it is because you have been raped by the system the left has developed to achieve and maintain power. They think they don't need you, and they certainly don't give a rats ass about you, or your children for that matter.
        So, what makes you think they are any better, or more honest about anything else?
        Everything has been poisoned by them. And if we do not fight back, soon, its gone. Our culture will become hellish before it collapses.

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        • #5
          Hi,

          http://sheddingoftheego.com/?p=748

          Thoughts?

          M

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          • #6
            Left, Right? No, we can only depend on ourselves, in my country there is a joke, the wordplay does not really work in english so i will post parts of it in croatian with translations in brackets. So there was this bosnian (Mujo) who fell asleep during the elections, and miraculously the elections turned out precisely 50/50 to a vote, so they desperately tried to find someone who did not vote so that they would not have to repeat the elections, they find Mujo and tell him "you have to decide, do you want to vote for Capitalists or Socialists", and Mujo says wait, that's a great responsibility, i need a bit of time to reflect on it, so he goes into the mountain and asks an old shepard "who should i vote for"? And the old shepard says "you have to ask the mountain, go to the highest peak and yell out your question", so Mujo goes up to the mountain and yells "who is better komunisti (communists) or kapitalisti (capitalists)" and the mountain says "isti, isti (the same, the same)".
            I sexually identify as a sword pommel, check your privilege or i will have to end you RIGHTLY.

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            • #7
              Hi,

              Originally posted by Anonymous View Post
              Left, Right? No, we can only depend on ourselves, ....... "isti, isti (the same, the same)".
              Spent some hours reading Arne Hoffmann and the german MRA blogspots, who are mostly left-leaning,
              with a lot of articles about why MHRM can _only_ be left/socialist.
              So .... I've come to the conclusion that this must be a purely tactical decision.
              MRAs anywhere will be on the opposing side of those parties who are most gynocentric/feminist.
              Which varies from country to country, obviously. IOW, a matter of local flavour, of expediency.
              There is no real and substantial connection between gyno/feminsm and party politics:
              I guess feminists, on their side, will ally with the powers that be - necessarily.
              Which doesn't prevent them from bitchin and moanin; but the again, what does? It's who they are.

              So perhaps the Old Elephants are are right that MRHM in the USA must be non-left politics.

              M

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Manalysis View Post
                Hi,



                Spent some hours reading Arne Hoffmann and the german MRA blogspots, who are mostly left-leaning,
                with a lot of articles about why MHRM can _only_ be left/socialist.
                So .... I've come to the conclusion that this must be a purely tactical decision.
                MRAs anywhere will be on the opposing side of those parties who are most gynocentric/feminist.
                Which varies from country to country, obviously. IOW, a matter of local flavour, of expediency.
                There is no real and substantial connection between gyno/feminsm and party politics:
                I guess feminists, on their side, will ally with the powers that be - necessarily.
                Which doesn't prevent them from bitchin and moanin; but the again, what does? It's who they are.

                So perhaps the Old Elephants are are right that MRHM in the USA must be non-left politics.

                M
                Personally i identify as Anonymous precisely because it has no defined leaning, no stated goal or code of conduct, i am my own leader and decide for myself what is right and what is wrong, no need for a party of any kind to dictate who i am, i was that ever since i saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdL3aU0yZBE, that's my way of thinking.
                I sexually identify as a sword pommel, check your privilege or i will have to end you RIGHTLY.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Patriarch View Post

                  I do not see how it is possible for any MRA to be a Leftist.

                  I realize it is hard to change sides in the great Left - Right war, but if you finally woke up to realize you and other men have been getting the shaft, maybe you need to look behind you and see which party is wearing the strap on.
                  As someone who still considers himself a leftist (and as a new convert to MRM), I think there is room for co-existence, compromise, and mutual support. There are shared goals, particularly in a non-traditional and non-conservative camp. Links to the cultural right reinforce stereotypes about preserving privilege, resisting change, and being perceived as being on the "wrong side of history" when it comes to human rights. I'm new here, so my views may reflect an unpopular stance. I still identify as a progressive concerned about equality and human rights.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TiberiusKirk47 View Post
                    As someone who still considers himself a leftist (and as a new convert to MRM), I think there is room for co-existence, compromise, and mutual support. There are shared goals, particularly in a non-traditional and non-conservative camp. Links to the cultural right reinforce stereotypes about preserving privilege, resisting change, and being perceived as being on the "wrong side of history" when it comes to human rights. I'm new here, so my views may reflect an unpopular stance. I still identify as a progressive concerned about equality and human rights.
                    Nah, that's just propaganda to justify the Nazi-like methods of the left. "Links to the cultural right reinforce stereotypes about preserving privilege" yak, yak, yak That's propaganda. The right is simply not the "extremists" you so desperately need them to be, to justify your own unjust agenda.
                    HISTORY shows us that great cultures are always built by the right, and destroyed by the left. Your philosophy is purely parasitical, and could not exist EXCEPT in better cultures of the right, who tolerate them. As much as leftists squawk, they would NOT be allowed a voice in a true leftist society, and we see that now, with the bullying, censorship, and lying propaganda against the right.
                    The left is the enemy of a good culture/society.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Crumbock View Post
                      Nah, that's just propaganda to justify the Nazi-like methods of the left. "Links to the cultural right reinforce stereotypes about preserving privilege" yak, yak, yak That's propaganda. The right is simply not the "extremists" you so desperately need them to be, to justify your own unjust agenda.
                      HISTORY shows us that great cultures are always built by the right, and destroyed by the left. Your philosophy is purely parasitical, and could not exist EXCEPT in better cultures of the right, who tolerate them. As much as leftists squawk, they would NOT be allowed a voice in a true leftist society, and we see that now, with the bullying, censorship, and lying propaganda against the right.
                      The left is the enemy of a good culture/society.
                      Please note that I tried to emphasize "perceptions of the right." Perceptions matter. I do not believe I have an unjust agenda, and I would dispute your grand narrative of history, considering that so many of the movements (Renaissance, Scientific Revolution, and Enlightenment) fit with a drive for social and political equality vs. a preservation of traditional authority, as championed by folks like Edmund Burke, the father of modern conservatism. Yes, I agree that the censorship and propaganda is disturbing. Perhaps there is continuity with events like the French Revolution. Nevertheless, I would argue that the trend towards a future of egalitarianism has always been a leftist crusade, despite terrible and horrific missteps into ideology.

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                      • #12
                        Whether the Left or the Right is the more moral group is pointless. Both like having a big government to cram their prescription for a moral life down everyone's throats, and both wish to use the government to harass and suppress their perceived enemies, and both support the burgeoning police state. None of that matters here, we are not the, Solve The Political Disputes of Western Civilization, forum. We are a Men's Rights Forum. What matters here is who is and isn't supporting the Feminists, and the laws and policies that are damaging our interests.

                        One has to be blind or unwilling to believe the truth about their side of the political divide to deny that Feminism is a creature of the Progressive Left in the United States today. (I have no idea what is happening elsewhere, and other than wishing my brother MRAs elsewhere good luck, have nothing to say about their situation.)

                        Which party is pushing to implement the Duluth Model, which basically instructs the police that in heated family confrontations, the man is always the aggressor and removing him from the home is always the best solution?

                        Which Party is the primary sponsor of the Violence Against Women Act?

                        Which party is pushing Yes Means Yes and Enthusiastic Consent laws, which seek to criminalize as much consensual sex as possible and to demonize the male role in the mating dance?

                        Which party pushed universities to adapt a preponderance of evidence standard in campus sexual assault allegations, which almost always weights the proceedings to the disadvantage of men.

                        Which party had a Senator invite Emma "Mattress Girl" Sulkowitz to the State of the Union Address this year?

                        Which party is using the "War on Women" rhetoric to demonize their opposition.

                        Which party's candidates regularly use the 77% pay and 1 in 5 women on campus get raped baloney in speeches.

                        Which party do most Feminists support?

                        How many Feminists has anyone noticed that are Republicans, Conservatives, Libertarians, or Christian Fundamentalists?

                        And I would ask people to notice that Feminist Sisterhood stops at the Right hand border of the Democrat party. Feminists never support Conservative or even moderate Republican women when they run for office, rather they attack them in a way that would create howling protests were Republican men to treat any Democrat woman running for office in a similar manner. Does the name, Sarah Palin, ring any bells? Has any Democrat woman been treated like that? Just questioning Hillary's private email server for official State Department business or her accepting huge donations and speaking fees from foreign groups that she had influence over decisions they had an interest in is not plausible questions of conflict of interest or bad decision making, not to mention flauting the law, but rather attacks on her because she is a woman.

                        The evidence that the Feminists and the Democrats are all part of the same team is everywhere you look. But you do have to open your eyes and look.
                        Last edited by Patriarch; 07-20-2015, 05:28 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Then we are agreed

                          Originally posted by Patriarch View Post
                          Whether the Left or the Right is the more moral group is pointless.
                          Agreed.

                          Both like having a big government
                          I'm afraid that with globalization etc. Big Government is the future. I don't know who said it - someone clever, obviously - and what the exact quote is, but it is something like "when all countries become one nation and there is peace on earth, wars will no longer be called wars, but rebellion". The transition from Cold War to Assymmetrical Warfare/War on Terror reflects this: today's enemy is no longer a state, but groups within states that for some reason or other are labelled subversive. In general, it means that the relation of the individual to the whole - including the protection of the individual _against_ the whole, is going to be one of the frontlines in the struggle for ... well, pick one. Justice? Humanity? You know.

                          to cram their prescription for a moral life down everyone's throats, and both wish to use the government to harass and suppress their perceived enemies, and both support the burgeoning police state.
                          Safeguarding the state, now trending towards being omnipresent, ominscient and omnipotent, if you recall those predicates, against take-over by special interest groups is going to be a major civil rights issue, at least.

                          None of that matters here, we are not the, Solve The Political Disputes of Western Civilization, forum. We are a Men's Rights Forum. What matters here is who is and isn't supporting the Feminists, and the laws and policies that are damaging our interests.
                          Disagree on that one. As long as Political Disputes of Western Civilization have a bearing on Men's Rights, that, too, belongs in the forum.

                          One has to be blind or unwilling to believe the truth about their side of the political divide to deny that Feminism is a creature of the Progressive Left in the United States today. (I have no idea what is happening elsewhere, and other than wishing my brother MRAs elsewhere good luck, have nothing to say about their situation.)
                          Well, the problem can be solved by avoiding the ambiguous use of "here". There is "here in the USA" and "here in the Forum"; they are not identical.
                          That's why I said that this is a tactical discussion, and choosing sides depends on which side the opponent has chosen.
                          I can't speak to the USA, but going by your list the answer seems clear.
                          But this does not hold everywhere, which was my point.
                          So I am glad we agree. At least once you open your eyes and look.

                          Another question is, of course, whether you actually combat feminism by engaging in commie-bashing. Which is the means, which is the end?

                          M

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TiberiusKirk47 View Post
                            Please note that I tried to emphasize "perceptions of the right." Perceptions matter. I do not believe I have an unjust agenda, and I would dispute your grand narrative of history, considering that so many of the movements (Renaissance, Scientific Revolution, and Enlightenment) fit with a drive for social and political equality vs. a preservation of traditional authority, as championed by folks like Edmund Burke, the father of modern conservatism. Yes, I agree that the censorship and propaganda is disturbing. Perhaps there is continuity with events like the French Revolution. Nevertheless, I would argue that the trend towards a future of egalitarianism has always been a leftist crusade, despite terrible and horrific missteps into ideology.
                            I live in post socialist country, here is how the things really go. First left fills your head with idealistic BS, now granted in EX YU they had legitimate grievances with NAZI reigime (that was also leftist BTW, it's National Socialist Party) then they send this wide eyed and idealistic kids to fight there crusade, once they take over the country they institute strict policies against all and every form of opposition, all in the name of glorious revolution, they start combing there own lines for any dissenting voices and either send them into internment camps or execute them as traitors. What democratic governments do secretly socialist governments do openly, they force you to work long hours "for the good of the state" all the while various parasites live off your labor and do nothing, they take your house and move 3 other families in it, even if you built it with your own hands, because it's all "ours" now, various "more equal" citizens get everything while average joe is left with barely enough to live on, all the while state media is censored so people would not find out how bad they have it, and any dissenting voices are brutally silenced, this carricature shows it well: pnp367373.jpg and they still call them liberals.
                            I sexually identify as a sword pommel, check your privilege or i will have to end you RIGHTLY.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Anonymous View Post
                              I live in post socialist country
                              Long discussion. IMO no countries in the east bloc were socialist etc., no matter what they called themselves.

                              NAZI reigime (that was also leftist BTW, it's National Socialist Party)
                              And here's where I stop taking you seriously. The NSDAP was as socialist as the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea is a Democratic People's Republic.
                              Anyone who can't analyze beyond a label (hint: "feminism = equality"), isn't going to make it to the top in intelligence.

                              M

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