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  • MatrixTransform
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    Originally posted by Manalysis View Post
    "The war to end all wars", or slogans like, and pardon my french, "fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity".
    putting and end to stupidity by ...

    oh, never mind

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  • MatrixTransform
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    Such glorious faith as fills your limpid eyes,
    Dear little friend of mine, I never knew.
    All-innocent are you, and yet all-wise.
    (For Heaven's sake, stop worrying that shoe!)
    You look about, and all you see is fair;
    This mighty globe was made for you alone.
    Of all the thunderous ages, you're the heir.
    (Get off the pillow with that dirty bone!)

    A skeptic world you face with steady gaze;
    High in young pride you hold your noble head,
    Gayly you meet the rush of roaring days.
    (Must you eat puppy biscuit on the bed?)
    Lancelike your courage, gleaming swift and strong,
    Yours the white rapture of a winged soul,
    Yours is a spirit like a Mayday song.
    (God help you, if you break the goldfish bowl!)

    "Whatever is, is good" - your gracious creed.
    You wear your joy of living like a crown.
    Love lights your simplest act, your every deed.
    (Drop it, I tell you- put that kitten down!)
    You are God's kindliest gift of all - a friend.
    Your shining loyalty unflecked by doubt,
    You ask but leave to follow to the end.
    (Couldn't you wait until I took you out?)

    --Dorothy Parker

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  • Manalysis
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    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    OK, it is official then... the way to kill a debate is with a lot of hippie poetry.
    Jokes aside, my main point in this debate was the paradox nature of repression,
    the kind of paradox one sees, after the fact, in "The war to end all wars", or slogans like, and pardon my french, "fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity".

    This you waved aside without making an effort to address by saying you had other connotations of the term "paradox" than politics.
    That more or less killed the debate as far as I am concerned; so there's another way of doing it, should it ever be required again: just avoid arguments.

    M

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  • Manalysis
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    Originally posted by MatrixTransform View Post
    and what about his use of 'violent' rhetoric ...tsk tsk
    He was actually the first to mention poetry, too

    M

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  • MatrixTransform
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    Originally posted by Manalysis View Post
    ... the debate is not "killed"
    and what about his use of 'violent' rhetoric ...tsk tsk

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  • Manalysis
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    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    OK, it is official then... the way to kill a debate
    Hey, drama queen,
    the debate is not "killed"; nothing prevents you from posting more arguments. Or poetry.

    is with a lot
    What, two is "a lot"?

    of hippie poetry.
    Nah, wrong generation. James and David weren't hippies, they were bohémiens.

    M

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  • MatrixTransform
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    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    OK, it is official then... the way to kill a debate is with a lot of hippie poetry.
    but dude, you said you liked poetry ... is it hate speech now too?

    hmm, seems there is just no pleasing you.
    Last edited by MatrixTransform; 08-25-2017, 10:40 PM.

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  • simpleman
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    OK, it is official then... the way to kill a debate is with a lot of hippie poetry.

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  • Manalysis
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    If you live along with all the other people
    and are just like them, and conform, and are nice
    you're just a worm --

    and if you live with all the other people
    and you don't like them and won't be like them and won't conform
    then you're just the worm that has turned,
    in either case, a worm.

    The conforming worm stays just inside the skin
    respectably unseen, and cheerfully gnaws away at the heart of life,
    making it all rotten inside.

    The unconforming worm -- that is, the worm that has turned --
    gnaws just the same, gnawing the substance out of life,
    but he insists on gnawing a little hole in the social epidermis
    and poking his head out and waving himself
    and saying: Look at me, I am not respectable,
    I do all the things the bourgeois daren't do,
    I booze and fornicate and use foul language and despise your honest man.--

    But why should the worm that has turned protest so much?
    The bonnie bonnie bourgeois goes a-whoring up back streets just the same.
    The busy busy bourgeois imbibes his little share
    just the same
    if not more.
    The pretty pretty bourgeois pinks his language just as pink
    if not pinker,
    and in private boasts his exploits even louder, if you ask me,
    than the other.
    While as to honesty, Oh look where the money lies!

    So I can't see where the worm that has turned puts anything over
    the worm that is too cunning to turn.
    On the contrary, he merely gives himself away.
    The turned worm shouts. I bravely booze!
    the other says. Have one with me!
    The turned worm boasts: I copulate!
    the unturned says: You look it.
    You're a d----- b----- b----- p----- bb-----, says the worm that's turned.
    Quite! says the other. Cuckoo!

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  • MatrixTransform
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    I hear the crying of the hungry in the deserts where they're wandering.
    Hear them crying out for heaven's own benevolence upon them.
    Hear destructive power prevailing, I hear fools falsely hailing.
    To the crooked wits of tyrants when they call.

    I hear them all
    I hear them all
    I hear them all

    I hear the sounds of tearing pages and the roar of burning paper.
    All the crimes in acquisitions turn to air and ash and vapor.
    And the rattle of the shackle far beyond emancipators.
    And the loneliest who gather in their stalls.

    I hear them all
    I hear them all
    I hear them all

    So while you sit and whistle Dixie with your money and your power.
    I can hear the flowers a-growin' in the rubble of the towers.
    I hear leaders quit their lying
    I hear babies quit their crying.
    I hear soldiers quit their dying, one and all.

    I hear them all

    I hear the tender words from Zion, I hear Noah's waterfall.
    Hear the gentle lamb of Judah sleeping at the feet of Buddha.
    And the prophets from Elijah to the old Paiute Wovoka.
    Take their places at the table when they're called.

    I hear them all
    I hear them all
    I hear them all
    I hear them all
    I hear them all
    I hear them all
    I hear them all
    I hear them all
    I hear them all

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  • Manalysis
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    Originally posted by MatrixTransform View Post
    what a complete cunt
    ... and accomplished Haiku poet

    M

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  • Manalysis
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    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    For what I can tell... the orthodox definition of jew could have include even more people...
    Yes, but then the people who use this definition are also not the census takers.
    AFAIK in a census, people state what their religion is, and that is the basis for a tally of who is protestant, catholic, jewish, etc.
    This is bound to differ from definitions based on descent.

    Also, modern germans are basically sick and tired of this topic, they really want to leave it on the pass, so as time goes by they are less interested on digging, searching, and finding...
    They were sick and tired of that topic already late in the evening of May 8. 1945.
    But then there was this 1978 TV series called "Holocaust", which is where the name was coined:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_(miniseries). In Germany it had a _massive_ impact.

    Talking here simple logic... is that man capable of unification the country on their several divisions?
    A very good question. At present, the answer is "no".
    The present political divide, it seems, is different answers to the question of why he isn't: is it his fault, or the fault of his critics?

    Accordingly to the nazis, the jews was not a raze, but an anti-race... created by a demon entity for the purpose of destroying the white raze. For them the evil is not in banking, or media or anything of that... but in the jewish blood.
    Which is, I guess, racism. The original brand, true and tried.

    Anyway ... good luck on your crusade, wherever your Jerusalem is.

    M

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  • Manalysis
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    Originally posted by Grumpy Old Man View Post
    You bring up an operative point here, "Sedition." In the US we are keenly aware of the various groups and their proclivities. We've had our eye on the very minority group of folks such as KKK and white nationalists(Nazis). We've been dealing with them for over a century and a half and are keen on keeping them in their place while keeping our values intact. Antifa and their ilk on the other hand are a different animal, they are actually the most "Seditious" threat to our founding principles and way of life.
    Yes. AFAIK the FBI has a good track record of finding and containing and eliminating domestic terrorists.
    OTOH the Brits did not outlaw Mosley's minuscule British Nazi party even during WWII.

    Speaking of Brits and political protest, my favourite anecdote is how they during the fight against SA Apartheid always would name, or rename, the street where the SA Embassy was to "Nelson Mandela Boulevard", wherever the SA Embassy was and whenever it moved ... deadly and classy ...

    There is a false threat Narrative being spun...that there are a large numbers of race groups running rampant across the US(large in respect to participation and activity). Simply not the case when one knows the facts. Given our history this is an easy sell by those who want to undermine us. or as we often see...play victim for political gain. Something Feminists like to do with men and we often see from the American Left.
    There are a number of statistics on what are widespread beliefs among people in the US, that one finds hard to believe.
    The number of people who believe the creationists' version of the origin of the universe, the Earth and mankind,
    the belief that Saddam Hussein was behind the second 9/11, that Iraq had WMDs, that 40 % of the US budget goes to foreing aid,
    that a large percentage of the population is on welfare, and so on.

    It seems like a good argument for better education, to become more immune to _real_ fake news.

    M

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  • Manalysis
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    Originally posted by mr_e View Post
    No, haven't you heard? That's more Hillary's gig...

    HILLARY CLINTON LOSING TO TRUMP WAS LIKE JESUS'S CRUCIFIXION, ACCORDING TO HER PASTOR
    http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clin...otional-649770

    ‘Jesus feminists’ see Hillary Clinton as a role model. They just won’t vote for her.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...illary-clinton
    Jeezus ...

    M

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  • MatrixTransform
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    Originally posted by Manalysis View Post
    When a pitbull humps my knee, I always know to fake an orgasm.
    dunno even know why but im chuckling uncontrollably

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