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    Few days have gone by this insident, and nobody in this forums have commented, so I guess it is my duty...

    I can immagine that if the drive of the trucks was named Abdu... or was he imigrant, it would be all over the forums... but what do I know...

    So here the actuall state of the situation, as is:

    "Trump again blames Charlottesville violence on both sides"
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40943425

    So... for some reason Trump have also refuse to denounce the perpetrators of the violence... and the best he have done so far is to say that both sides are equally violent.// but are they?

    This is not coming from any mainstream media, this is the narrative of a local, and how he perceived the events that day... He is a jew and he was at his synagogue for the Saturday service:

    http://reformjudaism.org/blog/2017/0...munity-presses

    ...

    On Saturday morning, I stood outside our synagogue with the armed security guard we hired after the police department refused to provide us with an officer during morning services. (Even the police department’s limited promise of an observer near our building was not kept — and note, we did not ask for protection of our property, only our people as they worshipped).

    Forty congregants were inside. Here’s what I witnessed during that time.

    For half an hour, three men dressed in fatigues and armed with semi-automatic rifles stood across the street from the temple. Had they tried to enter, I don’t know what I could have done to stop them, but I couldn’t take my eyes off them, either. Perhaps the presence of our armed guard deterred them. Perhaps their presence was just a coincidence, and I’m paranoid. I don’t know.

    Several times, parades of Nazis passed our building, shouting, “There's the synagogue!” followed by chants of “Seig Heil” and other anti-Semitic language. Some carried flags with swastikas and other Nazi symbols.

    A guy in a white polo shirt walked by the synagogue a few times, arousing suspicion. Was he casing the building, or trying to build up courage to commit a crime? We didn’t know. Later, I noticed that the man accused in the automobile terror attack wore the same polo shirt as the man who kept walking by our synagogue; apparently it’s the uniform of a white supremacist group. Even now, that gives me a chill.

    When services ended, my heart broke as I advised congregants that it would be safer to leave the temple through the back entrance rather than through the front, and to please go in groups.

    This is 2017 in the United States of America.

    Later that day, I arrived on the scene shortly after the car plowed into peaceful protesters. It was a horrific and bloody scene.

    Soon, we learned that Nazi websites had posted a call to burn our synagogue. I sat with one of our rabbis and wondered whether we should go back to the temple to protect the building. What could I do if I were there? Fortunately, it was just talk – but we had already deemed such an attack within the realm of possibilities, taking the precautionary step of removing our Torahs, including a Holocaust scroll, from the premises.

    ...
    So...

    Equally violent?

    Leftie media lies?

  • #2
    Originally posted by simpleman View Post
    So...

    Equally violent?

    Leftie media lies?
    Well I've been waiting to see if any more news emergences on this on the forum, because this forum is useful as it makes stories available that are filtered out by the British news.

    When groups are both violent it's escalating violence, which means it stays equal for a very short time. Equally to blame would be a better phrase.

    This forum is open to any to join but the people here by far are supporters of human rights, and concerned about the issues of male human rights being eroded. It's not a bastion of support for everything right wing, and is most definitely not here to support any form of racism or bigotry targeting any group at all. You'll get nothing here but complete condemnation for the attack that killed the woman in Charlottesville and injured the others, that's a criminal / terrorist act that proves a much stronger response from the police is needed to keep both sides apart, and pretty far apart. And the police need to react to remove violence from these protests. I don't recall there being any right to violently and destructively protest.

    That said, let's look at the obvious you select out one story and ignore the bike lock attacks, shooting, Antifa beating independent journos, BLM's using aerosols as makeshift flamethrowers, then report the violence and threat from the far right extremists... That's not proving unequally violent but is showing lying by omission.

    Your selection, tells of man or group feeling threatened by the presence, shouts and online posts from Nazi websites. But no where does he report a violent attack on the synagogue. He's reacting to the climate of fear growing around him, to be honest if I was there I'd be with him, scurrying out of the back, and I'd prefer to be with people in the synagogue than out on the streets, I have strong preference for the company of law abiding people.

    No one has ever denied the presence and the problem of far right extremists, just that it's a lie to conflate all of the right with them. And the problem from a human rights perspective is once all are tarred with the same brush de-escalation of division and violence gets hard, and policing can turn from legitimate law enforcement to state oppression. It's a tactic done across the media to silence the complaints coming from the 'right'. And let's not ignore that a lot of the complaints getting lumped together and silenced have nothing to do with right / left alignments on policy at all. They are about jobs, housing, poverty, opportunity and yes men's rights, a whole spectrum of complaints in bygone years I'd have expected the left to be standing up for. The whole reason I've drifted from my left wing background is the utter refusal to stand up for issues affecting the poorer end of society and problems of social decay... because they don't give a toss when it's harming groups they've put as others, which especially is men, and working class white men, once the backbone of the left are now excluded from any support.

    To the best of my knowledge the videos I've watched and articles I've read have been pretty specific about which far left they are complaining about, they have never called Democrats or Greens etc violent extremists nor attempted to conflate them with BLM or Antifa. And by far they've tried to point to individuals responsible for crimes that should be arrested. Do they skip talking about the far right extremists, well they don't do specific articles, but they don't hold back on condemnation of far right violence, threats and intimidation tactics.

    Your text only demonstrates that jewish people still feel very much under threat and there are still people who want to target them. That is an ongoing problem, and it's getting to be a larger problem the more tensions rise. The tensions and anger are the exact atmosphere that encourages extremists to come out of their coward holes mix in with the crowds and start doing acts of terrorism. They do it because they want to get away with it. Get away with violence in the same way and for the same reason Antifa blocks cover their faces and all try to dress the same.

    If you ask me simpleman, this isn't the time to be making silly points about Trump or snide swipes at the character of the people on this forum. All of this situation growing out of control stems from corrupt use of state power, police not doing their jobs, politicians telling them to stand down, extremist tactics mixing in with what should be political debate.

    The demand that needs to go up should be from the still too silent majority, demanding that all sides be kept within laws that are fair and just. If partisan sides want to burst their lungs yelling insults at each other, that might be within their rights, but not killing each other nor trashing towns.
    Last edited by voidspawn; 08-16-2017, 11:57 AM.
    "...especially when it comes to communication, it can be observed, if it is not a negotiation it's a war."
    Originally posted by menrppl2
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    • #3
      I seen a report in Canada said it was alt right white supramists and anti feminists

      typical

      who's to blame........why the ppl you hate of course
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      • #4
        Originally posted by voidspawn View Post
        Well I've been waiting to see if any more news emergences on this on the forum, because this forum is useful as it makes stories available that are filtered out by the British news.

        When groups are both violent it's escalating violence, which means it stays equal for a very short time. Equally to blame would be a better phrase.
        Very reasonable point... so.. How many nazis in the hospital? how many nazis dead?

        Equally violent???

        This forum is open to any to join but the people here by far are supporters of human rights, and concerned about the issues of male human rights being eroded. It's not a bastion of support for everything right wing, and is most definitely not here to support any form of racism or bigotry targeting any group at all. You'll get nothing here but complete condemnation for the attack that killed the woman in Charlottesville and injured the others, that's a criminal / terrorist act that proves a much stronger response from the police is needed to keep both sides apart, and pretty far apart. And the police need to react to remove violence from these protests. I don't recall there being any right to violently and destructively protest.
        Sadly to say so, but i think the forum drastically polarized in the political spectrum, on the times of the Trump campaign... and I think it stays this way.

        I don't really know much of the "alt-right"... It is something that came with Trump campaign as well... Trump is a national socialist, so it can't be that much of a right wing movement... So we will see.

        That said, let's look at the obvious you select out one story and ignore the bike lock attacks, shooting, Antifa beating independent journos, BLM's using aerosols as makeshift flamethrowers, then report the violence and threat from the far right extremists... That's not proving unequally violent but is showing lying by omission.
        I ignored pretty much the whole first link... i pointed out the title, as representative of Trump's situation... but then again... how many nazis in the hospital?

        Your selection, tells of man or group feeling threatened by the presence, shouts and online posts from Nazi websites. But no where does he report a violent attack on the synagogue. He's reacting to the climate of fear growing around him, to be honest if I was there I'd be with him, scurrying out of the back, and I'd prefer to be with people in the synagogue than out on the streets, I have strong preference for the company of law abiding people.
        Serves to remind what are the ideals and values of the nazi, the KKK and all those hate groups... They are no standing up for anything good or positive... So mowing down people with a car, is like the cherry on top of the cake... but car or no car it is important to remember what is in the mind of them.

        No one has ever denied the presence and the problem of far right extremists, just that it's a lie to conflate all of the right with them. And the problem from a human rights perspective is once all are tarred with the same brush de-escalation of division and violence gets hard, and policing can turn from legitimate law enforcement to state oppression. It's a tactic done across the media to silence the complaints coming from the 'right'. And let's not ignore that a lot of the complaints getting lumped together and silenced have nothing to do with right / left alignments on policy at all. They are about jobs, housing, poverty, opportunity and yes men's rights, a whole spectrum of complaints in bygone years I'd have expected the left to be standing up for. The whole reason I've drifted from my left wing background is the utter refusal to stand up for issues affecting the poorer end of society and problems of social decay... because they don't give a toss when it's harming groups they've put as others, which especially is men, and working class white men, once the backbone of the left are now excluded from any support.
        True... I am personally no linking the people with conservative ideals to any of this movements... So much that lines above I declare that National Socialism is a leftie movement... Hitler has a national Socialist... as Hugo Chavez was one too... as Trump is.

        My "indignation" comes from the failure of Trump to properly denounce the violence... see? people like the neo-nazis and the KK, think that they won the White House alongside with Trump, so they might fell more comfortable to act their values now that they claim they "won the country back"... Trump's silence is a confirmation for them.

        Want to talk about escalation of violence? then lest talk about a hate group that runs rampants with the blessing of the president...

        To the best of my knowledge the videos I've watched and articles I've read have been pretty specific about which far left they are complaining about, they have never called Democrats or Greens etc violent extremists nor attempted to conflate them with BLM or Antifa. And by far they've tried to point to individuals responsible for crimes that should be arrested. Do they skip talking about the far right extremists, well they don't do specific articles, but they don't hold back on condemnation of far right violence, threats and intimidation tactics.
        The articles I have read do name the neo nazis, and the KKK... even the article I link mention them by name... but at this point I am going to reverse this point of yours... It is not the job of the left to separate a nazi form a republican, it is basically the job of the republicans to separate themselves from the nazis... Many republicans are doing this right now, they too question Trump the same as I am doing... Trump separate himself from the nazis or the republicans will separa themselves from Trump...

        Your text only demonstrates that jewish people still feel very much under threat and there are still people who want to target them. That is an ongoing problem, and it's getting to be a larger problem the more tensions rise. The tensions and anger are the exact atmosphere that encourages extremists to come out of their coward holes mix in with the crowds and start doing acts of terrorism. They do it because they want to get away with it. Get away with violence in the same way and for the same reason Antifa blocks cover their faces and all try to dress the same.
        Bigger problem than what you think... after this events it is like 90% likely that building burn down, there is the nazis that want to bur it down and then all the people that hate nazies and want then to be blame of another crime... One way or another that jewish community is now a big target.

        If you ask me simpleman, this isn't the time to be making silly points about Trump or snide swipes at the character of the people on this forum. All of this situation growing out of control stems from corrupt use of state power, police not doing their jobs, politicians telling them to stand down, extremist tactics mixing in with what should be political debate.

        The demand that needs to go up should be from the still too silent majority, demanding that all sides be kept within laws that are fair and just. If partisan sides want to burst their lungs yelling insults at each other, that might be within their rights, but not killing each other nor trashing towns.
        I don't think the point is silly... Trump is showing his morals, and stuff is turning to be "the worse case scenario"... so now what? After all this debates... it turns out that he really is a racist?

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        • #5
          Alt-Right Activists Condemn Violence, Dispute Mainstream Account
          Originally posted by voidspawn View Post
          Well I've been waiting to see if any more news emergences on this on the forum, because this forum is useful as it makes stories available that are filtered out by the British news.

          When groups are both violent it's escalating violence, which means it stays equal for a very short time. Equally to blame would be a better phrase.

          This forum is open to any to join but the people here by far are supporters of human rights, and concerned about the issues of male human rights being eroded. It's not a bastion of support for everything right wing, and is most definitely not here to support any form of racism or bigotry targeting any group at all. You'll get nothing here but complete condemnation for the attack that killed the woman in Charlottesville and injured the others, that's a criminal / terrorist act that proves a much stronger response from the police is needed to keep both sides apart, and pretty far apart. And the police need to react to remove violence from these protests. I don't recall there being any right to violently and destructively protest.

          That said, let's look at the obvious you select out one story and ignore the bike lock attacks, shooting, Antifa beating independent journos, BLM's using aerosols as makeshift flamethrowers, then report the violence and threat from the far right extremists... That's not proving unequally violent but is showing lying by omission.

          Your selection, tells of man or group feeling threatened by the presence, shouts and online posts from Nazi websites. But no where does he report a violent attack on the synagogue. He's reacting to the climate of fear growing around him, to be honest if I was there I'd be with him, scurrying out of the back, and I'd prefer to be with people in the synagogue than out on the streets, I have strong preference for the company of law abiding people.

          No one has ever denied the presence and the problem of far right extremists, just that it's a lie to conflate all of the right with them. And the problem from a human rights perspective is once all are tarred with the same brush de-escalation of division and violence gets hard, and policing can turn from legitimate law enforcement to state oppression. It's a tactic done across the media to silence the complaints coming from the 'right'. And let's not ignore that a lot of the complaints getting lumped together and silenced have nothing to do with right / left alignments on policy at all. They are about jobs, housing, poverty, opportunity and yes men's rights, a whole spectrum of complaints in bygone years I'd have expected the left to be standing up for. The whole reason I've drifted from my left wing background is the utter refusal to stand up for issues affecting the poorer end of society and problems of social decay... because they don't give a toss when it's harming groups they've put as others, which especially is men, and working class white men, once the backbone of the left are now excluded from any support.

          To the best of my knowledge the videos I've watched and articles I've read have been pretty specific about which far left they are complaining about, they have never called Democrats or Greens etc violent extremists nor attempted to conflate them with BLM or Antifa. And by far they've tried to point to individuals responsible for crimes that should be arrested. Do they skip talking about the far right extremists, well they don't do specific articles, but they don't hold back on condemnation of far right violence, threats and intimidation tactics.

          Your text only demonstrates that jewish people still feel very much under threat and there are still people who want to target them. That is an ongoing problem, and it's getting to be a larger problem the more tensions rise. The tensions and anger are the exact atmosphere that encourages extremists to come out of their coward holes mix in with the crowds and start doing acts of terrorism. They do it because they want to get away with it. Get away with violence in the same way and for the same reason Antifa blocks cover their faces and all try to dress the same.

          If you ask me simpleman, this isn't the time to be making silly points about Trump or snide swipes at the character of the people on this forum. All of this situation growing out of control stems from corrupt use of state power, police not doing their jobs, politicians telling them to stand down, extremist tactics mixing in with what should be political debate.

          The demand that needs to go up should be from the still too silent majority, demanding that all sides be kept within laws that are fair and just. If partisan sides want to burst their lungs yelling insults at each other, that might be within their rights, but not killing each other nor trashing towns.

          I agree very much with what you said.

          And I will add that there are a number of alternative viewpoints to the situation that the mainstream media are refusing to consider-- *consider*-- as in even bother to tell you could be *possibilities*. They are so entrenched in slanting it into a one-sided conflict. I am presenting this link not as "the truth", but as an alternate explanation for the events presented from another viewpoint. I fully expect that there are details, recollections, and even outright biases and projections contained within-- but it is as "valid" as the perspective presented by the mainstream media-- meaning, it is simply more of the story for the viewer to see, read, absorb and try to incorporate as he/she tries to make an UNBIASED EFFORT to actually UNDERSTAND what happened-- and what IS happening in our nation right now.

          Alt-Right Activists Condemn Violence, Dispute Mainstream Account
          http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...tream-account/

          And there are lots of different video feeds to view from different angles and perspectives. Pick one, pick many-- they show a different version of the truth.

          YouTube Videos: "Charlottesville Car Video"
          https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ille+car+video
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          • #6


            This is the statement anti Trump, leftists and mainstream media are condemning him for?

            This makes him a racist?
            "...especially when it comes to communication, it can be observed, if it is not a negotiation it's a war."
            Originally posted by menrppl2
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            • #7
              Anybody's who's been paying attention knows that The Leftards/Antifarts have been using strongarm violent tactics for a while now. Watch the smashup video in slow motion and count how many of them have baseball bats/clubs/heavy sticks. There was bound to be a clash sooner or later, and there will be more, no doubt. The country is extremely divided; are these the first shots of a civil war? Trump commands a significant army of 25% of Americans, firmly in his corner, "to the end" as they say....that's scary, considering that they are probably the most well-armed of Americans.

              About 1 in 4 Americans would follow Trump to the end

              If the Deep State/Swamp/Washington Establishment/Pedophiles do force out Trump, he has enough support to lead his side of a Civil War, should he decide to. Their only option is to kill him. Fascinating times!
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              • #8
                I don't have much time, may reply more later.

                Christian Yingling, a militia leader from Pennsylvania, whose 32-man team arrived in the college town bearing loaded assault-style weapons and sidearms, told the Washington Post that his group came to defend free speech and maintain order. “Our mission was to help people exercise their First Amendment rights without being physically assaulted,” he said.

                https://www.thetrace.org/2017/08/cha...as-open-carry/
                The men dressed in fatigues with rifles were not there as white-nationalists or racists. They were there as peace-keepers. That doesn't mean none of them are racist, I don't know. But that wasn't their purpose there. Mostly this article expose the prejudice and fear of the jewish man who wrote the posting. We can debate the merits or rationality of his fear, but the truth of the matter is that man he was afraid of probably did more to keep him safe than the police who withdrew from the situation.

                Unfortunately postings like the one shared in the OP present people's assumptions as facts that then need to be countered with the truth.

                People are tired of seeing violence on the news. They're tired of watching anti-fa show up as a "counter protest" with the specific goal of inciting violence and the police and authorities turning a blind-eye. In the face of numerous instances where the police have allowed violence to occur, these particular men showed up to try to help keep the peace. For their trouble they're being lumped in with racists and white-nationalists.
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                • #9


                  Legitimate questions to be asked about what the hell was going on. More than one video shows that there were protestors armed with bats or similar behind the car and pursuing it. You can see two different groups of protestors, the car victims wearing normal clothing, assembled in a crowd and no weapons apparent. These people got ploughed into, you can also see others, faces covered attacking the car from behind who proceed to smash it after it impacts the crowd. This footage doesn't clarify anything, perhaps assembling all the evidence might. But there is more going on than just a 'maniac in a car' explains.
                  "...especially when it comes to communication, it can be observed, if it is not a negotiation it's a war."
                  Originally posted by menrppl2
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by voidspawn View Post


                    Legitimate questions to be asked about what the hell was going on. More than one video shows that there were protestors armed with bats or similar behind the car and pursuing it. You can see two different groups of protestors, the car victims wearing normal clothing, assembled in a crowd and no weapons apparent. These people got ploughed into, you can also see others, faces covered attacking the car from behind who proceed to smash it after it impacts the crowd. This footage doesn't clarify anything, perhaps assembling all the evidence might. But there is more going on than just a 'maniac in a car' explains.

                    Yes there is. And it needs to be explained. Until then we all need to wait and find out what happened.
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                    • #11
                      Found this link in the Breitbart article comments that Mr.E linked.

                      https://www.pscp.tv/NathanDamigo/1PlJQYjpnODJE

                      I've no idea who this guy is but the implications of his little rant, are if true, very scary for Americans. The media response reported here in the UK is blanket condemnation of the 'white supremacists', there is no other story being told. I can only imagine they are parroting the MSM in the US.

                      This seems to be exactly what this guy was expecting. His belief is that being pushed into a corner is the necessary pressure to create the unity and will to fight. This is getting ridiculously past the point of no return, the media is determined to silence them and they believe that will be the final straw. The media is not going to change it's direction, the far left activists sure as hell won't, the far right activists won't and the right wing moderates are getting pushed into a corner with no choice about their own identity or expression allowed, which suits the far right just fine, because that leaves them no choice but to join them.

                      That is way too many interests aligning with their preferred outcome is things getting worse. The last time I had this sick a feeling about the future was watching the Twin Towers attack on live news.

                      Last edited by voidspawn; 08-16-2017, 04:49 PM.
                      "...especially when it comes to communication, it can be observed, if it is not a negotiation it's a war."
                      Originally posted by menrppl2
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                      • #12
                        One side's got KKK/NeoNazis, the other side's got fuckin' Commies; luckily they're on the fringes of their respective sides.
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                        • #13
                          The permitted rally goers where there primarily to protest the removal of historical statues. There was under 500 of them. Some carried Nazi flags, others chanted pro-white slogans, but overall it was a minuscule turn-out.

                          The city had months to prepare. They sent about 1000 officers to the rally. Once the hundreds of communist flag waving protestors showed with baseball bats, rocks, bricks and plastic bottles filed with concrete, the police 'stood down' and allowed the protestors to completely surround the people at the rally. The police were hands-off even while people were being pepper sprayed and pelted with thrown objects.

                          Then the police started to escort the rally goers away... to 'disperse' them... while allowing the communists to continue marching and hunting down stragglers.

                          Then someone ran their car into another car, killing 1 person, injuring several more.

                          Escalation was the objective by the police and the politicians giving the order. The city needed a reason to disperse the rally goers and allowed a mob of armed protestors to do it for them. The city had attempted to block the permit.. they were overturned by a judge. So this was plan 'B'. Once violence had started, the police would be allowed to 'disperse' the crowd.

                          This was staged to be violent.. and a person ended up dead... cannon fodder for the political identity war.

                          When your political message is so weak you have to turn to Mob Rule to get the outcome you want.. this is what happens. Mob Rule is uncontrollable and entirely predictably violent.

                          Those 1000 officers should turn in their badges in disgust. The mayor should be ostracized and shamed out of office. The media should have their licenses revoked for providing cover for the violent communist mob.

                          As far as men walking around carrying semi-automatic rifles and wearing swastika's... why the hell didn't the police arrest these men also. Its not like a rifle is allowed to be openly carried and I would imagine there has to be photo's of these persons somewhere to corroborate this story.

                          What is the common thread between AntiFa communists and Nazi fascists. The desire for State power to use violence to control others.. colloquially called "Socialism." They both share the desire to destroy capitalism... they both share the ideology of achieving Utopia via the use of violence.

                          Both those ideologies are based on violence to achieve.
                          Want a 'white country'.. then odds are those 'non-whites' won't go voluntarily... then out come the guns.
                          Want a 'equality' community.. what about those who will not 'share' voluntarily... then out come the guns.

                          Right now, the mainstream media is banking on the 'equality' communist community (actually, historically most American news outlet were pro-Communist). The mainstream put ALL their money and hopes on Commie Clinton and when she lost.. they had no recourse but to try to tie anything they could to get Trump, and those who support him, slandered morally to be impeached.

                          Charlottetown is just another step in the process to try to have a standing president removed... so that socialist Utopian can be achieved. For socialists, that women died for the greater cause... a casualty of the information war. It may have not been specifically predetermined, but it was a very plausible and predictable outcome of allowing armed members of violent socialist groups roam the streets in close proximity.

                          This is the nature of the state. It uses the mob to promote a threat narrative... to create a false morality that empowers them to use censorship for 'their protection'.. and the 'good of society'.

                          So what's next... more YouTube, Google, Firefox, Twitter, Facebook censorship tools for 'protection from hate'.

                          Feminism and Nazism and Communist (all socialists ideologies) cannot exist without state censorship and the pseudo-moral justification of the initiation of violence. Censorship is about hiding your own bad ideas from exposure... like the scientific method is based of disproving incorrect theories... freedom of speech is based off allowing others to disprove your incorrect ideas.

                          The state is not real.. but it lives in our minds as a concept that is supposed to be about a high moral institution run by our betters. It is, in fact, a self-feeding system run by incompetents and ideologues who are constantly trying to cover up their failures.

                          And the state is not above using the cannon fodder of a few useful idiots to further its own growth. The amount of unnecessary human suffering caused by our holy belief in the purity of the almighty state is incalculable. This recent example is yet another body piled onto the mountain of bodies sacrificed to appease the gods of the false moral state.

                          God... we are slow fucking learners.
                          Last edited by Iggy; 08-16-2017, 07:42 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Iggy View Post
                            The permitted rally goers where there primarily to protest the removal of historical statues. There was under 500 of them. Some carried Nazi flags, others chanted pro-white slogans, but overall it was a minuscule turn-out.

                            The city had months to prepare. They sent about 1000 officers to the rally. Once the hundreds of communist flag waving protestors showed with baseball bats, rocks, bricks and plastic bottles filed with concrete, the police 'stood down' and allowed the protestors to completely surround the people at the rally. The police were hands-off even while people were being pepper sprayed and pelted with thrown objects.

                            Then the police started to escort the rally goers away... to 'disperse' them... while allowing the communists to continue marching and hunting down stragglers.

                            Then someone ran their car into another car, killing 1 person, injuring several more.

                            Escalation was the objective by the police and the politicians giving the order. The city needed a reason to disperse the rally goers and allowed a mob of armed protestors to do it for them. The city had attempted to block the permit.. they were overturned by a judge. So this was plan 'B'. Once violence had started, the police would be allowed to 'disperse' the crowd.

                            This was staged to be violent.. and a person ended up dead... cannon fodder for the political identity war.

                            When your political message is so weak you have to turn to Mob Rule to get the outcome you want.. this is what happens. Mob Rule is uncontrollable and entirely predictably violent.

                            Those 1000 officers should turn in their badges in disgust. The mayor should be ostracized and shamed out of office. The media should have their licenses revoked for providing cover for the violent communist mob.

                            As far as men walking around carrying semi-automatic rifles and wearing swastika's... why the hell didn't the police arrest these men also. Its not like a rifle is allowed to be openly carried and I would imagine there has to be photo's of these persons somewhere to corroborate this story.

                            What is the common thread between AntiFa communists and Nazi fascists. The desire for State power to use violence to control others.. colloquially called "Socialism." They both share the desire to destroy capitalism... they both share the ideology of achieving Utopia via the use of violence.

                            Both those ideologies are based on violence to achieve.
                            Want a 'white country'.. then odds are those 'non-whites' won't go voluntarily... then out come the guns.
                            Want a 'equality' community.. what about those who will not 'share' voluntarily... then out come the guns.

                            Right now, the mainstream media is banking on the 'equality' communist community (actually, historically most American news outlet were pro-Communist). The mainstream put ALL their money and hopes on Commie Clinton and when she lost.. they had no recourse but to try to tie anything they could to get Trump, and those who support him, slandered morally to be impeached.

                            Charlottetown is just another step in the process to try to have a standing president removed... so that socialist Utopian can be achieved. For socialists, that women died for the greater cause... a casualty of the information war. It may have not been specifically predetermined, but it was a very plausible and predictable outcome of allowing armed members of violent socialist groups roam the streets in close proximity.

                            This is the nature of the state. It uses the mob to promote a threat narrative... to create a false morality that empowers them to use censorship for 'their protection'.. and the 'good of society'.

                            So what's next... more YouTube, Google, Firefox, Twitter, Facebook censorship tools for 'protection from hate'.

                            Feminism and Nazism and Communist (all socialists ideologies) cannot exist without state censorship and the pseudo-moral justification of the initiation of violence. Censorship is about hiding your own bad ideas from exposure... like the scientific method is based of disproving incorrect theories... freedom of speech is based off allowing others to disprove your incorrect ideas.

                            The state is not real.. but it lives in our minds as a concept that is supposed to be about a high moral institution run by our betters. It is, in fact, a self-feeding system run by incompetents and ideologues who are constantly trying to cover up their failures.

                            And the state is not above using the cannon fodder of a few useful idiots to further its own growth. The amount of unnecessary human suffering caused by our holy belief in the purity of the almighty state is incalculable. This recent example is yet another body piled onto the mountain of bodies sacrificed to appease the gods of the false moral state.

                            God... we are slow fucking learners.


                            Actually rifles are allowed to be openly carried. This man is not breaking the law.




                            This man is:

                            Last edited by mr_e; 08-16-2017, 07:46 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Carl Benjamin has done a good video about identitarian politics.

                              "...especially when it comes to communication, it can be observed, if it is not a negotiation it's a war."
                              Originally posted by menrppl2
                              Can't live with em, life is great without them.

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